Time to upgrade my gaming rig, need some help picking parts.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:09 pm

i would tap this, http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php? ... Technology

but that is pricey

or there are these..

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php? ... TECHNOLOGY

remember, AMD64's are the Cpu's that REALLY! REALLLYY!!! Gain from timmings on ram.

btw, i forgot to mention, With the asrock's Stock bios's ( ~5 of them ) There are some limmitations when it comes to Volt's, and FSB...
but that shit is fixed with the ( atleast ) 60 Custom Bios's that people have made for that mobo... just a heads up

btwbtw, i am not saying go with the ram sticks that i just posted, but you get the idea when you look at the brand and the timmings...

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:55 pm

Wait a tic, why are you running that cpu at 100mhz FSB?!?!?

How the hell could you have been running the comupter this long with only 1/2 of the cpu power???

What model CPU Do you have and i will post a guide on how to get the thing running at Full speed...

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:58 pm

Do you recommend a BIOS for that board?
Also what do you think about the CPU I picked.
I'll probably get the second pair of ram you posted.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:00 pm

Dude, i would say first thing is first and get that computer running right before you go out and build another!

i am considering finding some way to smack you from across the internet.. Seriously.. that is sad man.. how wouldent you notice that a cpu that is rated for running 2.1 is running at 1.2ghz?!?!

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:03 pm

Yeah I just changed it. I remeber one time I tried it at 200 and it didn't work. Then went my way down the list and the only one that would work was 100.
But now 166 is working so I'll run the specs now.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:06 pm

orly?

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:06 pm

before
after

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:06 pm

THERE WE GO! do you notice a diffrence now?!

go play some games and shit, you will feel it!

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:12 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:orly?

When I changed it, it said something about the CPU being set at the wrong speed. I worked my way down the list until something worked.

I'm going to install Q3 and do a timedemo of both speeds and see what the difference is.

What do you think about the ASUS A8V board?

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:15 pm

yea, thats not a 200mhz FSB barton, its a 333.. so thats 166FSB not 200

have you noticed a speed diffrence?

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:18 pm

i am not a fan of Via anymore... At all actually..

some people may disagree with me, but i would take a Nvidia/ULI Shipset over it.. ( Considering they are the same now

)

i had to do a simular thing, i baught the MSI K8n-Neo2, that was the last AGP Based mobo out there, i dident have the cash to upgrade my 9800

Btw, i am waiting on the test resaults, and you should have noticed a diffrence within windows with that ~900mhz Boost.

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:20 pm

I'm just about to install Q3 and do a few timedemo's.

When I went to buy a new CPU, I gave them the name of the one I wanted. They said that they didn't have that one, but they had one that was slower.
And there I was thinking they were talking about slower Ghz, but he was actually talking about FSB.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:25 pm

Damn man, all this time, i cant beleve that you have been running that Cpu at 900mhz slower :/

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:27 pm

I'm just about to install Q3 and do a few timedemo's.

When I went to buy a new CPU, I gave them the name of the one I wanted. They said that they didn't have that one, but they had one that was slower.
And there I was thinking they were talking about slower Ghz, but he was actually talking about FSB.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:08 am

allright, and whats the virdict?

is that a good enough boost? or are you going to still aim for an upgrade?

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:42 am

Well with the config I used I went from about 142 to 223. So an 80 fps boost, but I think I can still get more out of the video card if I go with the new parts.

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:42 am

Sorry I didn't post earlier. I had to leave for work.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:54 am

yea, you can... and will..

but what i was getting at, doe you really need an upgrade? You just gained so much, dosent that count?

(Pssstt, Socket M2 is only ~4 months away from release!!! )

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:04 am

Well I'll probably save my money for now.
Since Toca 3 will be out shortly, I'll be spending most of my time playing that.
I might be buying my brother's digital camera from him so I'll make a decision when I get Toca and play for a week.

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:06 am

Even if I was to upgrade to a 64 bit, then I'm basically getting a low end 64 bit system I guess.
I'll probably end up waiting untill windows vista is out.
Probably buy that with some new parts, etc.

Post by **DiscoDave** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:53 pm

Good logic to wait until vista, you could probably also go dual core then, which will be a great benefit to the new OS. your current system will definatly hold out for a while yet

AmIdYfReAk wrote: (Pssstt, Socket M2 is only ~4 months away from release!!! )

pfftt, there's always something new just round the corner..

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:57 pm

i know there is allways something new around the corner, but my thery is simple,

Why would anyone upgrade to a low end AMD64 system when they wouldent see that much of a boost from there current system, and that would infact limmit them in the future to upgrade the low end system that they built for that purpose?

persionally, i have been running aa 3200+ 939, on a MSI K8N-Neo2 plat, with a 9800 pro.. and i have been considering an upgrade... badly.. but that would only cut my self odd at the knees! i would need all new hardware anyway to get a new Videocard, and by that time the M2 will be out with DDR2 and will offer a Bigger jump.

yes, there is allways something around the corner, but there is also a window.. when a company like AMD is changing there socket that means that is going to stick for a wile, and if you buy something before that change, knowing full well that the newer socket is comming out... you just knowingly cut your self off from any big upgrades with future hardware.

so why not sit on your hands for a little bit, get the newer socket, build it low end if you like, then you have an option to upgrade the shiet a few months down the road without any restrictions!

Anyway, this is enough of my ranting

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:10 pm

Well I'll probably end up picking up two 200GB sata drives for my pc.
Right now I have two 80 gig sata's.

Post by **YourGrandpa** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:43 am

AmIdYfReAk wrote:i know there is allways something new around the corner, but my thery is simple,

Why would anyone upgrade to a low end AMD64 system when they wouldent see that much of a boost from there current system, and that would infact limmit them in the future to upgrade the low end system that they built for that purpose?

persionally, i have been running aa 3200+ 939, on a MSI K8N-Neo2 plat, with a 9800 pro.. and i have been considering an upgrade... badly.. but that would only cut my self odd at the knees! i would need all new hardware anyway to get a new Videocard, and by that time the M2 will be out with DDR2 and will offer a Bigger jump.

yes, there is allways something around the corner, but there is also a window.. when a company like AMD is changing there socket that means that is going to stick for a wile, and if you buy something before that change, knowing full well that the newer socket is comming out... you just knowingly cut your self off from any big upgrades with future hardware.

so why not sit on your hands for a little bit, get the newer socket, build it low end if you like, then you have an option to upgrade the shiet a few months down the road without any restrictions!

Anyway, this is enough of my ranting

But if someone is having trouble buying a low end system now, how long do you think they'll have to wait to buy a PC that supports the new platform?

The ticket to buying PC parts is to buy a system that'll do what you need it to. Also getting the highest end stuff you can afford will keep you in the game longer.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:46 am

i do agree, but a socket M2 platform is starting from the ground up, offerin as low as the *cough* 3200+ in the M2 flav..

So its not that much of a diffrence, and it would keep them in the game