Point Release 1.1 Beta (Feb 22)

Post by **SUPERCHUNK** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:25 pm

Whatcha talking bout Willis? The patch is GREAT for me. FOV 115? hell yeah, simple items? hell yeah, no more buggy stair jumping? hell yeah. No more super loud MG sound? hell yeah. I'm just sayin'

Post by **o'dium** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:40 pm

SUPERCHUNK wrote:Whatcha talking bout Willis? The patch is GREAT for me. FOV 115? hell yeah, simple items? hell yeah, no more buggy stair jumping? hell yeah. No more super loud MG sound? hell yeah. I'm just sayin'

You seem to of missed the part where you can no longer AIM at things...

Post by **SUPERCHUNK** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:51 pm

o'dium wrote:
SUPERCHUNK wrote:Whatcha talking bout Willis? The patch is GREAT for me. FOV 115? hell yeah, simple items? hell yeah, no more buggy stair jumping? hell yeah. No more super loud MG sound? hell yeah. I'm just sayin'
You seem to of missed the part where you can no longer AIM at things...

Yeah, you are correct. But at least for me, the aim bug isn't really all that bad. Granted I don't play a lot of 1v1, just mostly spammy pubs. I'm just glad that q4 is being worked on.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:08 pm

This is a 'beta' patch -- which means they are making it open to the public for testing --- hence the term 'beta'. If you think it's performing badly, reinstall or backup your 'release' game next time and don't play the beta. The whole point of them publically releasing the beta is for testing by the masses. Sheesh, some people just complain no matter what is done. If this were a 'closed beta' you wouldn't have been able to download it -- der.

Anyhow ... I got a major FPS hit with the beta patch. Yes, I realize it's beta, hence I'm reporting the issue.

Post by **SUPERCHUNK** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:06 pm

I got a FPS boost with my crappy comp. g_simpleitems 1 helped a LOT, it is still not vertexlighting but hell, it is much better that what I had before.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:32 pm

If id or Raven is reading this ...

Feature Request:

Please make it so the admin can set temp GUID bans when a person is vote kicked from a server.

Example:

Loser is playing and fellow players kick him off. Normally he can just return. But if there was an option where the admin can set a time for the GUID to be banned for x amount of time, Loser won't be able to return to the server for that long.

Something like:

g_votekickban 60

So if Loser is kicked from the server, via a vote by other players, he/she will be banned from the server for 60 minutes.

Thank you. :icon31:

Post by **SUPERCHUNK** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:56 pm

Would said loser be me? I'm just asking because I have never been kicked before and I need something to look forward to.

Hi Jenny!

Seriouslly, I mostly play on one server and I know the admin. He is not currently running "teh patch". Couple of quick questions:

1. Is there a way to disable the DMG/ items on maps? Is this fixed with "teh patch"?.

2. Is there some sortof voicechat logging? I know that this is a stretch, but when some assbag is constantly saying nasty nasty crap, it shold be logged and banable.....

Also, how/ where do you lookup guid's

Sorry for the noobish questions,.......

Post by **wydDooMer** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:12 am

1. No, thats something you'd probably need a mod for like q4max

2. I don't think so, but you can hit esc and mute players.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:16 am

Game seems to lock up when using OpenAL and Sound Blaster X-Fi.

Thank you. :icon31:

Post by **iluvquake4** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:28 am

Did a reinstall and no more lock-ups and smooth FPS.

Go figure.

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Post by **{uZa}FreakOfNature** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:30 am

So, can we redirect now or is it just auto-download that was fixed?

Post by **iluvquake4** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:20 am

o'dium wrote: You seem to of missed the part where you can no longer AIM at things...

Praise and optimism along with calm and constructive criticism goes much further with developers than constant whining and lecturing.

Post by **CheapAlert** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:59 am

Oeloe wrote:ESR reports that a new bug has been introduced in the beta patch: very slight/slow mouse movements are not picked up. I can confirm that if you move your mouse by around 5 millimeters per second, the crosshair doesn't move at all. Now i make mouse movements this small very rarely so i would hardly notice it, but it resulted in a page of complaints on ESR of course.

I had that bug with Q3A once, odd. I've only gotten that same bug when testing my map launching Q3A from QuArK, and the brightness is fucked up then too, so it could be a directinput and focus related bug.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:18 am

I think there is something wrong with the Sound Blaster X-Fi hardware and/or drivers. No matter how much I tweak it, the Sound Blaster X-Fi will drop the FPS down to almost 30 in fights and the sound quality is often scratchy and unusual. I thought it was due to my own incompetence but as I google'd I'm finding this problem is quite common with other games, motherboards, and combinations of systems with the Sound Blaster X-Fi.

In contract, my little Logitech USB headset (with it's own built in sound card) sounds far better and there are no FPS drops. :icon27:

So if you get bad sound from your sound card or onboard audio, this little headset does quite a good job:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/produ ... NTID=10013

Post by **Oeloe** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:01 am

The more i read about Q4, the more i realize the game is a wreck. Raven suddenly beginning to listen and respond to community feedback seems like a last ditch effort to make the game slightly less unplayable.

I really want to be proved wrong here, but when i read things like this:

SyncError @ ESR:

I've posted this before recently.

The rockets CANNOT be sped up without having majorly adverse effects on low end machines. I'm talking about things like rockets flying THROUGH enemies bodies instead of hitting them.

And comments like this:

hahah, sometimes I wish some people realised what an insane and unfixable mess the Q4 MP is. If you look at the code, there is absolutely, virtually, NOTHING that works right. What you're asking for is a complete rewrite. If they do, here is where they should start fixing:
1. Datastructures (lol @ idList, idStr, etc)
2. def files (do not need this stupid flexibility when you can make a mod, slows things down considerebly, even with caching, because accessed way to much)
3. Gosh, I donno, not using only C coding practices in C++?!? (not they they should have switched to that abonimation of a language in the first place)
4. Everything else.

Please prove me wrong Raven. :S

Post by **iluvquake4** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:01 am

Did SyncError write the last part - 4 points or was that someone else? If SyncError did, that's really bad PR to bash their own game.

Post by **BonskY** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:58 am

Hi guys,

Just to be sure on one thing, before the 1.1 point release (version 1.0.4) the Q4 server browser was shown around 1300/1400 servers, but now with the 1.1 beta release, it only shown 75/80 servers...

Is it possible that the server browser ping only the server upgraded to the 1.1 beta patch ?

Thanks for you help guys !

Post by **DooMer** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:00 am

Yeah, when you update the game you can only see and join 1.1 beta servers.

Post by **BonskY** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:07 am

Thanks Doomer !

Thats a was I tought but I didn't sure, usually with UT or Q3 you can find server with previous version.

That okays I will wait and see...

Thanks again :icon31:

Post by **iluvquake4** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:49 am

Hrm.

Not wanting to give up on this SoundBlaster X-Fi, I uninstalled the drivers. Used Reg Supreme Pro (http://www.macecraft.com), reinstalled drivers, reinstalled latest official update (from Creative). Everything is smooth and sounds terrific. Now I am getting better FPS with OpenAl enabled.

So my recommendation -- maybe this will help someone who has the card and has had similar issues - is to run a registery cleaner before installing the card.

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Post by **{uZa}FreakOfNature** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:51 am

{uZa}FreakOfNature wrote:So, can we redirect now or is it just auto-download that was fixed?

Anyone tested this yet?

Post by **iluvquake4** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:29 am

{uZa}FreakOfNature wrote: Anyone tested this yet?

http://www.files.quake4world.com

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Post by **Lenard** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:16 am

Did it actually work? No one answered me.. the hell...

Post by **Requ!em** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:04 pm

Thanks for the positive feedback Oeloe =)

More 1.1 BETA patch updates to the UpsetChaps' Quake4 Guide
http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake4/Quake4Guide.htm

- Scripts section updated with new 'Weapon Cycle' script and 'Weapon Sensitivity and FOV' script that make use of the new doImpulse and doButton commands in patch 1.1 or above
- Framerate and Visual Tweaks section updated to include information on the new benchmark demo supplied with patch 1.1
- Armour section updated to include information on new hitsounds in multiplayer
- FAQ How do I benchmark? updated to include information on the new benchmark demo supplied with patch 1.1
- Tailored Configs page updated, multiplayer config updated with settings and information on the new s_voiceChatReceive and s_voiceChatSend cvars in patch 1.1
- Connection tweaks section updated with settings and information on the new s_voiceChatReceive and s_voiceChatSend cvars in patch 1.1

Post by **{uZa}FreakOfNature** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:31 pm

{uZa}FreakOfNature wrote:
{uZa}FreakOfNature wrote:So, can we redirect now or is it just auto-download that was fixed?

Anyone tested this yet?

Just FYI, redirect IS now working as I've tested it on our server. I'll be adding all the custom maps to our server soon.