Evolution or Pro Creation

Post by **Absolut** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:06 pm

Been having this discussion here at work for the last couple weeks. Do you believe in evolution or pro creation? I know where I stand, what's your thoughts?

Post by **Jackal** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:09 pm

I bet there's not a single person here who's a creationist.
Close thread! I WINS!!!

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:10 pm

u some kind of moron? this debate has been over for a long LONG time...unless ur a nutcase....

Post by **Fender** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:11 pm

I don't "believe" in evolution. I understand it to have happened. Evolution has occured and continues to happen. To dispute that is some combination of ignorance and stupidity.

Post by **plained** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:12 pm

i used to be much much more of a caveman before

Post by **MKJ** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:13 pm

what fender said. its not a belief like creationism is. and i dont mean that in a biblethumping "its teh truth no debate!1noe" way either

Post by **Absolut** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:14 pm

Well, I couldn't agree more, but I happen to work with some morons (yes, I want them to see this). I believe in evolution but I happen to work with alot of close minded people (die hard Catholics). Was wanting some support/ammo against them :icon31:

Post by **Lotad** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:15 pm

Evolution.

Post by **Fender** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:21 pm

Absolut wrote:Well, I couldn't agree more, but I happen to work with some morons (yes, I want them to see this). I believe in evolution but I happen to work with alot of close minded people (die hard Catholics). Was wanting some support/ammo against them :icon31:

Point them to the statements from the Pope that evolution is a valid scientific theory, etc. etc. etc. That and the big bang as well.

google Pope John Paul II's address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:24 pm

tell those ppl there is no god and even if there was he would send the morons to hell...which means them...

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:29 pm

lots of morons...pathetic...

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp ... 1002154704

Post by **Wabbit** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:33 pm

I believe in God and evolution. Don't see why one has to exlude the other.

Post by **Absolut** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:35 pm

Good point. That was brought up also.

Post by **Survivor** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:37 pm

God might exist, but any religion is absolutely nuts. Who can follow a book like the koran or the bible when the policy of a religion clearly changes when it's leader changes. Evolution at least has some basis, it might not be complete but it has solid ground to stand on.

Post by **Lotad** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:42 pm

Wabbit wrote:I believe in God and evolution. Don't see why one has to exlude the other.

Why? Why invite magical thinking into scietific theory when theres no need?

Post by **Wabbit** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:46 pm

I honestly believe that people (in general) expect too much from religion.

They use it as an excuse to murder, take money and exclude others while holding themselves out as being superior. Meanwhile, many honest people see what's being done "in the name of God" and are so turned off that they dismiss everything. Yes, they end up throwing away all the bad...but they also throw out anything good that could have ever come from it.

I believe God is so much more then any one relgion, concept or person can comprehend that all you can do is try.

Post by **Foo** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:48 pm

valuable discussion =/

Post by **Pext** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:51 pm

Foo wrote:valuable discussion =/

yet there are people who believe in creation...

Post by **Pext** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:53 pm

for me as a person that loves maths, i allways like the simple ways better. creation as a principle is just not simple.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:53 pm

god and religion have nothing to do with each other...

Post by **Wabbit** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:53 pm

Foo wrote:valuable discussion =/

Don't worry about it too much Foo, Darkmetal will be here in just a moment to inject his Boobs into it and any semblence of conversation will disappear.

Post by **Absolut** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:59 pm

I understand that politics and religion are two things that will be debated till the end of time......It's just hard for me to believe in something just because someone says it's so. To have blind faith. I was told, as far back as I can remember, to vote democrat. I was smart enough to make my own decision based on my own experience, but that was how I was brought up. It's scary to think of how many people that were brought up the same way......and weren't smart enough to make that decision for themselves. Same goes for religion, Is there a God? I'm like the people of Missouri.....show me

Post by **Lotad** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:01 pm

Wabbit wrote:I honestly believe that people (in general) expect too much from religion.

They use it as an excuse to murder, take money and exclude others while holding themselves out as being superior. Meanwhile, many honest people see what's being done "in the name of God" and are so turned off that they dismiss everything. Yes, they end up throwing away all the bad...but they also throw out anything good that could have ever come from it.

I believe God is so much more then any one relgion, concept or person can comprehend that all you can do is try.

What does it offer that can't exist without it?

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:05 pm

just think how much better the world would be if there were no religion...better yet...if we could take all the religious ppl to some island and nuke them into extinction...kill two birds with one stone...

Post by **Absolut** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:06 pm

OMG, your going to hell for that...oh wait, is there a hell?