Config ?

Post by **Eddie** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:58 pm

Does anybody here have a config to get as much FPS as you can. I dont want it to look to crappy but also want it to look somewhat nice to. I have an Nvidia TNT2 video card and I get from 9 fps in a heavy fire fight to about 40 like in a small room. So does anybody have one. P.S. I checked the web tryed some but wasnt good either. I'd figure I would do better here since alot of people here know alot about quake.

Thanks alot,

Eddie

Post by **Foo** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:17 pm

TNT2 with what systems surrounding it?

Some basic commands for increased FPS:
\r_picmip 2
\r_fastsky 1
\r_subdivisions 20
\cg_forcemodel 1
\cg_drawgun 0
\cg_simpleitems 1
\r_lodbias 2
\r_mode 3
\vid_restart

Post by **Eddie** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:28 pm

Its an old comp

AMD k6 tm 400 mhz
312 mb ram
windows xp sp2

Post by **Foo** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:41 pm

The TNT2 always had issues with the K6 systems, because allmost all K6 systems had a VIA chipset at that point which the card hated. I used to be able to get a fluctuating FPS of between 20 and 55 FPS if I turned everything to *absolute* lowest.

The tweaks I suggested should help a little, but bear in mind it wont ever get to 125 or even 50FPS consistent

Post by **Eddie** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:43 pm

yea i just played a game in texas noghost and my fps increased alittle. thanks for your help. hopefully next month i will get a new comp for my birthday.

Post by **Foo** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:51 pm

That would be good

If not, though, upgrading parts for a machine like that would be very cheap - you'd probably find RAM. processor and graphics cards for the system quite cheap on ebay and such.

Post by **Eddie** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:14 am

yea i can do that also. Can you recomend a video card that is for pci that can get very good fps that is cheap and also run good on my comp. thanks

Post by **Oeloe** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:28 am

Hmm, finding a PCI vidcard that's faster than the TNT2 will be very difficult i'm afraid. I don't even recall that there was a PCI version of the TNT2. I had an AGP (4X) version anyway.

Post by **Foo** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:47 am

The TNT2 will be okay if you up the processor speed. My main issue with the TNT2 when I had it on a K6-2 machine was that it would blue-screen windows every now and again, and get very hot. The TNT2 was the same generation card as the Voodoo 3, but if you strapped a faster processor and more ram onto it it far outperformed the voodoo 3.

If you can find a voodoo 4 or 5, they had PCI versions I think. They're kinda rare now with 3dfx going broke, but I guess they exist somewhere. Beyond that, I don't know, there may have been some PCI versions of the geforce 1 and 2. If you can get a PCI Geforce 2 MX with a faster processor you'll be getting excellent performance.

Post by **Foo** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:48 am

In fact, there are quite a few PCI cards still available and it looks like a lot of sellers still carry them:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Products ... bnails=yes

Post by **Eddie** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:59 am

Thanks alot man :icon25:

Post by **menkent** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:54 am

ffs, get on ebay and buy a gf2mx or something. that rig should be a in a museum... or playing q2.

edit: didn't read the entire thread... agree with others- get new cpu/mobo, then you can get an agp card. for the record, i got better fps than that with a voodoo3 on a p2-350MHz with *maybe* 128MB ram. tweak your shizzle.

Post by **busetibi** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:30 am

try some of these cfg's
http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake3/FPS_visuals.html

when i first started playing Q3 i had a tnt2, with some shitty intel thing, was able to pull 50-60 fps on most maps.
go into Options and turn everything "Off" ejecting brass and all that stuff, from memory i was using picmip 5.
sry cant seem to find an old cfg

Post by **Oeloe** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:20 pm

I doubt that a GF FX5200 will outperform a TNT2 by much though. A PCI FX5200 with 256 MB for over 50 quid, that's extremely ridiculous btw. 256 MB is a lot even on a GF 6600GT. Pretty much anything older than Quake 4 doesn't need 256 MB of video memory.

Your money is really best spent on a cpu+mobo replacement. You can get used machines that are way faster than your current machine for the price of that FX5200...

Post by **Survivor** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:42 pm

My config, totally unoptimised:127.1
Best Visual/FPS Compromise config from uc: 186.9
Best FPS config from uc: 226.0

GFX card: 8X AGP 128 mb Geforce FX 5200
800x600
512 mb ram, 1.8 ghz

I'd say the mobo/cpu upgrade would be best for you as well. On a sidenote, the FX 5200 I have has never, ever, ever crashed on me. It might not deliver the biggest bang in fps but it keeps on trucking through everything.

Post by **^misantropia^** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:01 pm

Regarding config tweaks, r_vertexlight 1 will give you a considerable FPS boost at the cost of those nice lightmapped environments.

Post by **menkent** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:13 pm

here's a chunk from my gfx config... hasn't really changed much since 1999ish, so it should give decent fps.

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// CG Settings //

seta cg_smoke_gl	"0"
seta cg_smoke_rl	"0"
seta cg_smoke_sg	"0"
seta cg_noprojectiletrail	"1"
seta cg_nomip	"183"
seta cg_drawGun	"1"
seta cg_gibs	"0"
seta cg_draw2D	"1"
seta cg_show2D	"1"
seta cg_drawStatus	"1"
seta cg_drawTimer 	"1"
seta cg_drawFPS	"1"
seta cg_draw3dIcons	"0"
seta cg_drawAmmoWarning	"0"
seta cg_drawAttacker	"0"
seta cg_drawRewards 	"0"
seta cg_simpleItems	"1"
seta cg_predictItems	"1"
seta cg_lagometer	"1"
seta cg_deferPlayers	"1"
seta cg_drawTeamOverlay	"1"
seta cg_marks	"0"
seta cg_shadows	"0"
seta cg_drawIcons	"0"
seta cg_draw2dicons	"0"
seta cg_autoswitch	"0"
seta cg_brasstime	"0"
seta cg_runpitch	"0"
seta cg_runroll	"0"
seta cg_bobup	"0"
seta cg_bobpitch	"0"
seta cg_bobroll	"0"
seta cg_damagedraw	"1"
seta cg_smoke_sg	"0"
seta cg_smokegrowth_gl	"0"
seta cg_smokeradius_gl	"0"
seta cg_smokegrowth_rl	"0"
seta cg_smokeradius_rl	"0" 
seta cg_usescreenshotjpeg	"1"


// R settings //

seta r_ext_compressed_textures	"0"
seta r_primitives	"0"
seta r_facePlaneCull	"1"
seta r_gamma	"2"
seta r_swapInterval	"0"
seta r_textureMode 	"GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST"
seta r_finish	"0"
seta r_dlightBacks	"1"
seta r_dynamicLight	"0"
seta r_drawSun	"0"
seta r_fastsky	"0"
seta r_ignoreGLErrors	"1"
seta r_flares	"0"
seta r_lodbias	"1"
seta r_lodCurveError	"250"
seta r_ignoreFastPath	"1"
seta r_smp	"0"
seta r_subdivisions	"20"
seta r_vertexLight	"1"
seta r_simpleMipMaps	"1"
seta r_fullscreen	"1"
seta r_mode	"4"
seta r_ignorehwgamma	"0"
seta r_overBrightBits	"0"
seta r_depthbits	"24"
seta r_stencilbits	"0"
seta r_colorbits	"16"
seta r_texturebits	"0"
seta r_detailtextures	"0"
seta r_roundImagesDown	"1"
seta r_picmip	"5"
seta r_ext_texture_env_add	"0"
seta r_ext_compiled_vertex_array	"1"
seta r_ext_multitexture	"0"
seta r_ext_gamma_control	"0"
seta r_allowExtensions	"1"
seta r_fullbright	"0"
seta r_mapOverBrightBits	"3"
seta r_intensity	"1.6"
seta r_znear	"4"
seta r_ambientScale	"0.5"
seta r_lightmap	"0"
seta r_flareSize	"40"
seta r_showsky	"0"
seta r_noportals	"0"
seta r_preloadTextures	"0"

//  Model settings  //

seta model	"sarge/blue"
seta team_headmodel	"sarge/blue"
seta team_model	"sarge/blue"
seta headmodel	"sarge/blue"
seta enemyModel	"keel/pm"
seta cg_enemyModel	"keel/pm"
seta cm_playerCurveClip	"1"
seta forceModel	1
seta cg_forcemodel	1
seta cg_forceEnemyModel	1
seta cg_enemyColors	"0iii"

Post by **Eddie** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:55 pm

Thanks guys. Im praying next month I'll get a new comp and the way it looks I am.

Post by **black8ball** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:10 am

i got a Ibm thats a 2.8 ghz and has 1 gig memory and has a 512 video card and it runs quake faster than sonic the hedgehog can run

Post by **Oeloe** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:10 am

Right, don't forget to turn off smoke trails (cg_noprojectiletrail 1)! It's causes frame drops on slow systems.

Post by **menkent** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:10 pm

with the config i posted i get 336fps on my athlon 2800+ with 1GB ram and a gf4-4800se (with a bunch of junk running in the bg). i can well remember the days i'd have to do a fresh restart then shut down everything i could in the task manager to play.

Post by **Oeloe** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:21 pm

menkent wrote:with the config i posted i get 336fps

Depends entirely on the map you play. There are Q3 maps that probably still make a GF 7900 choke.

Post by **menkent** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:11 pm

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