Different drug, but kind of reminded me of the Harvard professor (name escapes me right now) who would advocate the use of LSD. Interesting guy and got a lot of attention around the same time as the beat poetry movement was getting attention. Worth reading about if you can find his name.
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coolnurse.com/lsd wrote: The late Timothy Leary gave LSD its fame after being kicked out from Harvard University for using students and other volunteers to study the effects of LSD on the brain. He later became an advocate of the drug, promoting its “mind expanding qualities.” LSD as a cultural phenomenon in the 1960s and 1970s has been a subject for much literature, such as Tom Wolfe's “The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test”.
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Giraffe }{unter wrote:speaking of retarded people who fuck up their bodies... Did anyone see the video of the guy who injected his manhood with silicone over the course of six years?
He says "I can no longer penetrate... but the long term pleasure I get from this is far better than the 15 minutes..."
I saw that, and it was horrific.
That guy is one twisted faggot to think that anyone would actually give a shit that he artificially made his penis huge.
Giraffe }{unter wrote:Huge it barely looked like anything but a blob of meat to me... gack "i like to challenge people" what a fruitcake
he was a fag actually and if I remember right he was advocating injecting your balls/dick with silicone (for whatever reason, I don't see any argument that would persuade people). He had some weird quote like "I'm challenging society's view on what a penis should look like." But he ended up in the hospital and almost died of silicone poisoning after doing it for a few years. Thus he quickly renounced it and tries to let others know the danger (I guess there are other people doing it?).
ctrlnuke wrote:Different drug, but kind of reminded me of the Harvard professor (name escapes me right now) who would advocate the use of LSD. Interesting guy and got a lot of attention around the same time as the beat poetry movement was getting attention. Worth reading about if you can find his name.
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coolnurse.com/lsd wrote: The late Timothy Leary gave LSD its fame after being kicked out from Harvard University for using students and other volunteers to study the effects of LSD on the brain. He later became an advocate of the drug, promoting its “mind expanding qualities.” LSD as a cultural phenomenon in the 1960s and 1970s has been a subject for much literature, such as Tom Wolfe's “The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test”.
LSD is pretty interesting as far as drugs go. I've heard from a few people though that what the drug does is actualy cause some inhibitors in your brain to stop inhibiting things... I should probably do a little more research on it but it's pretty interesting.
It's like fractals suddenly make a LOT more sense then they've ever had. If that makes any sense at all.
XTC is about 35-45 bucks a tab in Aust, so thats not likely to happen here, I did treat a guy once who took 1 tablet, and have a minor stroke, he was 23, lucky for him, full physical recovery after 3-4 days but in the acute phase, he could not walk or talk, or eat by himself.
"Liberty, what crimes are committed in your name."
Jesus that's expensive. The price of XTC around here used to be 20$ till we came along. My friend who got busted started selling it at 10$ a pill and made it boom around here. Before him almost no one took it around these parts.
I much prefer acid personaly, but XTC is a great party drug.
I used to live in the bay area before Vegas, it was pretty popular there. $15 a pill. It's called thiz up there because of the whole Mac Dre thizzle thing so a lot of kids get into it. Thizzle dance, thizzle face, etc.
Kracus wrote:Wow that's incredible. You have to keep in mind though this guy REALLY over did it, you know, you could kill yourself drinking too much water but you don't see us banning water anytime soon.
But seriously this guy did a lot of other drugs, cocaine being one of them. I know enough about MDMA to know you don't mix it with Cocaine. The dopamine really fucks with the depleted seratonin cells causing irreperable damage. I'm not trying to advocate the use of either drug either but on a recreational basis I'd say xtc is still a pretty safe drug as long as you know all you're taking is MDMA and not a bunch of other shit mixed with MDMA, which is really tough to figure out without a testing kit.
But that being said, I've done E before over the course of a summer or so, it's not addictive, otherwise I'd still be doing it, which I do once in a rare while now though. But if you let your body regenerate I don't think you'll suffer any adverse effects.
Unless you start mixing stuff, I don't do cocaine though. Just smoke canabis.
There aren't 'seratonin cells' There are cells that produce and are responsive to seratonin though.
And the whole 'water can kill you too, but we aren't going to ban it anytime soon' really isn't an applicable argument to this idea.
I have a hard time imagining taking 25 pills a day and not getting a few bad ones that could kill you. I guess he must have been very close to a good source. i.e: few intermediaries if any. But it seems like one source wouldn't be able to produce at that speed so you would think you'd eventually get into shadier and shadier sources for it...making the risk factor go up.
Also, the more I read it the more I doubt it. The guy just sounds like some crazy junkie. Obviously someone taking 25 pills a day can't hold down a job...legitamite or not. I guess maybe if he bought 50 a day and sold half, but a junkie that deep wouldn't have the discipline to do that. Not to mention the cost of other drugs he did also.
Just a crazy junkie reporting to have taken obscene amounts for some attention. There's no way a guy like that could afford 40,000 pills in 9 years.
S@M wrote:XTC is about 35-45 bucks a tab in Aust, so thats not likely to happen here, I did treat a guy once who took 1 tablet, and have a minor stroke, he was 23, lucky for him, full physical recovery after 3-4 days but in the acute phase, he could not walk or talk, or eat by himself.
holy shit thats expenive, get 6 for a tenner round here :icon28:
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That's my point. It doesn't matter what it is, too much of anything is bad for you.
jesus
the difference is that pills like that serve no purpose to the body other than cause addiction and break down crap, while water is needed to live, eventhough it can be fatal when used excessively.
ctrlnuke wrote:I have a hard time imagining taking 25 pills a day and not getting a few bad ones that could kill you. I guess he must have been very close to a good source. i.e: few intermediaries if any. But it seems like one source wouldn't be able to produce at that speed so you would think you'd eventually get into shadier and shadier sources for it...making the risk factor go up.
ctrlnuke wrote:Also, the more I read it the more I doubt it. The guy just sounds like some crazy junkie. Obviously someone taking 25 pills a day can't hold down a job...legitamite or not. I guess maybe if he bought 50 a day and sold half, but a junkie that deep wouldn't have the discipline to do that. Not to mention the cost of other drugs he did also.
Just a crazy junkie reporting to have taken obscene amounts for some attention. There's no way a guy like that could afford 40,000 pills in 9 years.
there's no point in any source producing a small amount and there are lots of sources. those 'few bad ones that could kill you' don't happen very often. for every single bright-eyed college hopeful whose bloated corpse appears on the news, there are 100s of 1000s of blissful gurners. only bad guys in vin diesel movies produce poison pills, then go on to sell the damn things.
if you're in the circle of friends of a source then your supply is a few pence per pill if not free - and you don't need to be rubbing shoulders with the mafia to get your hands on a lot of the stuff all at once. there's always a few feckless dole-blagging pillmonsters in a crowd like that.
not picking up on this out of defense for the guy, he sounds like an idiot - but he's not that rare either.
weird reading S@Ms post - that's more than £20 a pill, what's going on over there?
The problem with es is that the hyperpyrexia and collapse are part of the pharmacological actions - hence you don't know you're going to have a bad reaction to it until you do, leading to the bright eyed college student stories.
I thought most of the es for sale in the UK weren't actually e these days anyway?
One great source of comedy is the toxbase (national poisons unit) news page - it's always funny to find that some mong somewhere has been smoking rat poison......
@4days,
we dont have Kracus so supply is expensive, even tho labs are everywhere. also its the main recreational drug while in UK etc cocaine is teh main party drug (AFAIK) so while demand is high, costs are high (actually fucked if i know why)
"Liberty, what crimes are committed in your name."
maybe it's the profile of the drug and the increased legal risk of being discovered using it or something? no-one over here seems too bothered by a high street club full of people that are obviously shitfaced for 8 hours at a time, but i guess the culture could be different across the pond.
the handful of americans i've met at clubs have described a much more seedy and house-party orientated scene over there, which could indicate less demand (and a need for smaller-scale, more expensive production), but i assumed they were describing something isolated.
@geebs,
e's always taken to mean MDMA, but there are lots of variations on the same compound that do different things that could be interpreted as the same thing by the average techno-munter. apparently a lot of the other compounds (esp. MDA i think, but i can't pretend to even begin to follow the science) are easier to produce so tend to find their way into many more pills than MDMA itself.
stories of other drugs (besides speed and ketamin) finding their way into pills with any regularity are probably bollocks, why put a couple of quids worth of smack into a tab you're going to charge 50p for? even speed and ketamin can't account for too much of what's out there, because those pills rely on being taken in a building full of people on e to work properly.
is there anything in that toxbase thing about hash? with the clods of compressed dogshit, carrier bags and road tar that get sold as draw these days, was wondering if anyone got notably poisoned by it.
Kracus wrote:Wow that's incredible. You have to keep in mind though this guy REALLY over did it, you know, you could kill yourself drinking too much water but you don't see us banning water anytime soon.
But seriously this guy did a lot of other drugs, cocaine being one of them. I know enough about MDMA to know you don't mix it with Cocaine. The dopamine really fucks with the depleted seratonin cells causing irreperable damage. I'm not trying to advocate the use of either drug either but on a recreational basis I'd say xtc is still a pretty safe drug as long as you know all you're taking is MDMA and not a bunch of other shit mixed with MDMA, which is really tough to figure out without a testing kit.
But that being said, I've done E before over the course of a summer or so, it's not addictive, otherwise I'd still be doing it, which I do once in a rare while now though. But if you let your body regenerate I don't think you'll suffer any adverse effects.
Unless you start mixing stuff, I don't do cocaine though. Just smoke canabis.
...quite possibly the dumbest thing i've ever read.
Kracus wrote:Wow that's incredible. You have to keep in mind though this guy REALLY over did it, you know, you could kill yourself drinking too much water but you don't see us banning water anytime soon.
But seriously this guy did a lot of other drugs, cocaine being one of them. I know enough about MDMA to know you don't mix it with Cocaine. The dopamine really fucks with the depleted seratonin cells causing irreperable damage. I'm not trying to advocate the use of either drug either but on a recreational basis I'd say xtc is still a pretty safe drug as long as you know all you're taking is MDMA and not a bunch of other shit mixed with MDMA, which is really tough to figure out without a testing kit.
But that being said, I've done E before over the course of a summer or so, it's not addictive, otherwise I'd still be doing it, which I do once in a rare while now though. But if you let your body regenerate I don't think you'll suffer any adverse effects.
Unless you start mixing stuff, I don't do cocaine though. Just smoke canabis.
There aren't 'seratonin cells' There are cells that produce and are responsive to seratonin though.
And the whole 'water can kill you too, but we aren't going to ban it anytime soon' really isn't an applicable argument to this idea.
Err right... That's what I meant though.
I know I just like to exagerate things to make my point. Unless you want to get into the semantics of which chemicals are neccessary to live I'd say although it was a little stretching the idea a little it's still applicable.
what a fruitcake
There are cells that produce and are responsive to seratonin though.
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