thermite and sulfur brought down wtc say physicist...
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what a fucking moron...govts love idiots like this...vesp wrote:good lord.. they were 110 storey buildings... do you expect only one side of a building that high to collapse, or the outer material to fall away and leave the central columns? come on.
As for wtc7, everything i've seen on that is muddy. Videos showing what looks like cutter charges etc, people admitting it was a controlled demolition.
a defining attribute of a government is that it has a monopoly on the legitimate exercise of violence...
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says the revolutionary who posts on the internet and doesn't do anything to counter these <i>obvious</i> coverups.Freakaloin wrote:what a fucking moron...govts love idiots like this...vesp wrote:good lord.. they were 110 storey buildings... do you expect only one side of a building that high to collapse, or the outer material to fall away and leave the central columns? come on.
As for wtc7, everything i've seen on that is muddy. Videos showing what looks like cutter charges etc, people admitting it was a controlled demolition.
if you actually believe this shit, go out and do something about it
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Lol, you post about everything else, why wouldn't you post about any efforts you're making to make things better? Of course you would.Freakaloin wrote:maybe i am...do i need to tell u about it to make u feel better about urself?...
No geoff, you're simply a backseat driver spouting shit. You're not doing anything about anything.
i didn't expect anything. i asked three questions. you answered none of themvesp wrote:good lord.. they were 110 storey buildings... do you expect only one side of a building that high to collapse, or the outer material to fall away and leave the central columns? come on.
a simple "i don't know" would have sufficedAs for wtc7, everything i've seen on that is muddy. Videos showing what looks like cutter charges etc, people admitting it was a controlled demolition.
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No, but there are legitimate questions as to why both buildings collapsed the way they did when the second plane struck at a much greater angle and didn't appear to have damaged the core.vesp wrote:good lord.. they were 110 storey buildings... do you expect only one side of a building that high to collapse, or the outer material to fall away and leave the central columns? come on.
I think they fell due to the combination of impact and fire damage, but there's a lot of weirdness with both of them.
The one thing I don't 'get' about that whole 'collapsed floor trus' thing is that for it to actually happen, it would *require* a synchronised and complete collapse of each floor in order for the building to crumble onto it's foot print.
IOW, the 2/3rds of the building that weren't damaged would *need* to fall at exactly the same time as the damaged section to precipitate a collapse onto it's footprint - otherwise it'll fall lopsided and topple over to some degree.
Why on earth would the undamaged 2/3rds of the building collapse at exactly the same time as the damaged section, keeping in mind that all the wonky load baring is around the damaged section of the towers. One would naturally have expected the damaged section to collapse 1st - as has been seen in just about every other type of building collapse - and then the rest of the building following it.
For such a large building falling supposedly under it's own steam, it's a bit too perfect a collapse to be totally acceptable.
IOW, the 2/3rds of the building that weren't damaged would *need* to fall at exactly the same time as the damaged section to precipitate a collapse onto it's footprint - otherwise it'll fall lopsided and topple over to some degree.
Why on earth would the undamaged 2/3rds of the building collapse at exactly the same time as the damaged section, keeping in mind that all the wonky load baring is around the damaged section of the towers. One would naturally have expected the damaged section to collapse 1st - as has been seen in just about every other type of building collapse - and then the rest of the building following it.
For such a large building falling supposedly under it's own steam, it's a bit too perfect a collapse to be totally acceptable.
That's the other thing... both towers received completely different impact patterns which would have stressed the building is slightly different but significant ways, if we're to understand what professional engineers have been saying. And yet, both buildings fell in *exactly* the same way, with no deviation, straight down symmetrically.Nightshade wrote:No, but there are legitimate questions as to why both buildings collapsed the way they did when the second plane struck at a much greater angle and didn't appear to have damaged the core.
I think they fell due to the combination of impact and fire damage, but there's a lot of weirdness with both of them.
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Kat wrote:The one thing I don't 'get' about that whole 'collapsed floor trus' thing is that for it to actually happen, it would *require* a synchronised and complete collapse of each floor in order for the building to crumble onto it's foot print.
IOW, the 2/3rds of the building that weren't damaged would *need* to fall at exactly the same time as the damaged section to precipitate a collapse onto it's footprint - otherwise it'll fall lopsided and topple over to some degree.
Why on earth would the undamaged 2/3rds of the building collapse at exactly the same time as the damaged section, keeping in mind that all the wonky load baring is around the damaged section of the towers. One would naturally have expected the damaged section to collapse 1st - as has been seen in just about every other type of building collapse - and then the rest of the building following it.
For such a large building falling supposedly under it's own steam, it's a bit too perfect a collapse to be totally acceptable.
uh no