the decider disobeys 750 new laws...

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:44 pm

doesn't that make him a dictator?...

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washi ... s_of_laws/

Post by **hate** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:12 pm

of course

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:08 am

War presidents are often shit presidents supposedly necessitated by the times. A good war president is a rare specimen indeed.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Mon May 01, 2006 4:29 am

what war? we aren't in any real war...grow up kid...

Post by **mjrpes** » Mon May 01, 2006 4:44 am

lol democracy

Post by **seremtan** » Mon May 01, 2006 11:35 am

every war president wants to be churchill...and fails

Post by **busetibi** » Mon May 01, 2006 11:48 am

thats why they kicked Churchill out of office after the war :icon26:

and lets not forget the fuck up he made at Gallipoli

Mon May 01, 2006 12:18 pm

Massive Quasars wrote:War presidents are often shit presidents supposedly necessitated by the times. A good war president is a rare specimen indeed.

There never was a war.

Post by **Fender** » Mon May 01, 2006 12:41 pm

jesus fucking christ

he thinks he's king

Post by **R00k** » Mon May 01, 2006 12:58 pm

He sure does. In addition to the responsibility of the execution of laws, he is usurping the role of creating and interpreting the meaning of legislation as well.

He is acting out the roles of all three branches of government himself, behind closed doors after everyone else is gone home.

Post by **Ryoki** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:02 pm

I met an American called Jim this weekend and asked: "Do you think Bush will be impeached before the end of the term?"
"No" he answered: "I think there will have to be a Revolution. Those bastards. Let's not speak of this, not today. It's getting me down."

I grinned.

Post by **busetibi** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:11 pm

no way will bush be impeached
the only good thing about this is that freak will leave the bb

http://www.quake3world.com/forum/viewto ... ight=leave

Post by **R00k** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:17 pm

Why do you think there's no way he'll be impeached?

Post by **busetibi** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:18 pm

hes gotten away with to much, he can't be touched

Post by **Ryoki** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:18 pm

Personally i think the chances are still small, but increasing each day. He possibly won't survive another major scandal...

Post by **R00k** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:21 pm

busetibi wrote:hes gotten away with to much, he can't be touched

But a lot of people are just now finding out about the things he's "gotten away" with.

Post by **busetibi** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:23 pm

makes no difference, the people that matter have known for ages.
his power base is too strong

Post by **R00k** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:34 pm

I disagree. His approval rating is getting tinier by the week - once it gets to a certain point, it would be political suicide for Congress not to impeach him.

What's interesting is the lack of public outrage. By that I mean the lack of the media's willingness to publicize the outrage that does exist.

Just like Ryoki's guy, the large majority of people in this country want his ass out of office - but still the mainstream news is not interested in airing these grievances in proportion to the numbers of people who feel that way. Their headlines aren't a whole lot different in tone than they were a year ago.

So, to people who get all their news from television, there doesn't really seem to be a lot of outrage at all. So those people think they're still in the minority if they want Bush impeached, even if that isn't necessarily true.

That's the dangerous power that a few large companies have over our political process.

Post by **busetibi** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:40 pm

R00k wrote:
That's the dangerous power that a few large companies have over our political process.

winna!

Post by **kapitalkev** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:57 pm

[Bush asserts] that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.

Jesus! :icon20:
Just thinking about a Bush supporter trying to defend this one makes me want to vomit.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Tue May 02, 2006 5:36 am

[url=http://www.landmarkcases.org/nixon/nixonview.html]Nixon's Views on Presidential Power:
Excerpts from an Interview with David Frost[/url]

...

FROST: So what in a sense, you're saying is that there are certain situations, and the Huston Plan or that part of it was one of them, where the president can decide that it's in the best interests of the nation or something, and do something illegal.

NIXON: Well, when the president does it that means that it is not illegal.

FROST: By definition.

NIXON: Exactly. Exactly. If the president, for example, approves something because of the national security, or in this case because of a threat to internal peace and order of significant magnitude, then the president's decision in that instance is one that enables those who carry it out, to carry it out without violating a law. Otherwise they're in an impossible position.

....

Post by **R00k** » Tue May 02, 2006 5:29 pm

It sounds like the UK is pushing for their ministers to have authoritarian powers as well.
They are trying to pass a law that will allow any minister to arbitrarily change any existing law, with no oversight, as long as it doesn't impose new taxes, isn't a criminal offense with more than a 2 year prison sentence, and doesn't authorize forced search and seizure.

http://www.saveparliament.org.uk/problem.html

Jeez, it's like we're both trying to out-Hitler each other. :icon27: