mx518 halp!

Post by **Foo** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:41 am

Dumbass question of the day but....

I just got an mx518 to replace my mx510 (right click went intermittent... you can't imagine how annoying that could be).

Now it's got this fancy DPI/Sens switching button on it that drastically alters the mouse sensitivity... Problem is, I don't know if the low sensitivity or the high sensitivity setting is the 1600DPI one. Anyone know?

My guess is the highest speed sens is the highest DPI, since it would react more to smaller movements. But I really dunno.

Post by **dzjepp** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:51 am

Yeah increasing the speed (+ button) increases the dpi. btw why not just use 1600 all the time, that's what I have, and just adjust your game sensitivities accordingly. I totally disabled the dpi switching with setpoint. BTW if you haven't installed setpoint, you should go ahead and do so, it's pretty damn good and it isn't like earlier logi software. I use os implementation, get no acceleration issues at all.

But I think it's because I applied the reg-tweak to disable xp acceleration.

You can also use setpoint implementation and it lets you control the windows sensitivity + windows acceleration, it lets you bypass both. That way it will ignore the notch setting in mouse control panel and you will have to adjust your game sens. accordingly. I just use os implementation and don't have to deal with that.

Post by **dzjepp** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:54 am

BTW I don't use the mouse rate tweak anymore cuz it drops a bunch of frames in games for me (benched q3 and got a lower score with it, so meh).

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/US ... 05183690/1

Post by **Foo** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:15 am

Tah. I've been running at 250hz for a while now. I've seen people mention issues with 500hz with the 518 on esreality.

Post by **Foo** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:26 pm

Well, I've got the sensitivity consistent, I can press the plus button till the cows come home but it stays the same. This is good.

It seems really odd to need my Q3 sensitivity down to 1 though. Also, the menu mouse sens is fucked up completely (way too high).

Aside from all that, the general movement of the mouse feel a bit off. It's like small movements are inducing a bigger motion than they should be.

It could be that I had some acceleration acting on the old mouse (mx510) but I did install the reg fix on that one too, so I doubt it. I guess it could be the increased DPI making things feel different.

Any ideas? I'd love it to be just the same as my old mx510, rather than having to re-learn my LG aim..that seems to be the most far off of all the weapons now, which makes me think again that it's some kind of negative acceleration or acceleration that was there previously is now missing.

Post by **Foo** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:02 am

After a day I'm digging this more. The side buttons have been improved on this version of the mx and have a much more solid feel to them... better definition. The silver finish is pimp, and the skates work okay on this steelpad.

The orientation still feels a bit off and fine movement still feels a bit twitchier than the previous mouse. But I think I can get used to it.

Post by **prince1000** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:12 am

are you using setpoint and @ 1600? latest version is the most stable yet, meaning if you had the sens buttons bound to something else in previous versions it would revert to default (+ & - sens) in games arbitrarily.

im using the hid usb polling rate tweak @ 500, not whole usb bus. search esr for the link, with cpl xp mouse reg tweak applied first. in the setpoint properties under mouse movement i have pointer speed set to middle (default) and no pointer accel and same in windows control panel. in mouse game settings i use OS implementation. i dont know if setpoint is exactly the same as mouseware for 510 and the adv settings exe they provide but i found really no diff when i switched.

this all w/ in_mouse -1 and no q3 accel.

Post by **Oeloe** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:56 am

This article has a section that explains how you can use Razer drivers for Logitech mice: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=222946

The question is, what will I benifit uppon using these drivers from Razer, with my Logitech mouse? Well for these following reasons:

1. Razer drivers aren't buggy, compared to MW.
2. Razer's drivers doesn't install and modify registry settings that will mess up Windows, such as Mouse Acceleration and other mouse settings, that aren't pleasant.
3. Razer drivers are bloat free, it only installs the system driver, and using it's own mouse configuration software to colaborate the mouse settings.

Old article though and it must be referring to the Razer Boomslang drivers because the Copperhead wasn't out in 2002...

Post by **dzjepp** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:37 pm

Not to mention it refers to mouseware, setpoint is 100x better than that old crap.

Post by **dzjepp** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:55 am

btw cocks, there is also a accel. tweak that hard-patches win32k.sys that removes all traces of acceleration, it removes it so it's similar to win9x, like accel. never existed, might wanna check it out.

http://home.arcor.de/_aero/projects/accelfix/

Post by **dzjepp** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:27 am

uhm to you setpoint guys, if you decide to try this patch, it seems to break setpoint, it will complain about not being able to start etc.