The final 9/11 conspiracy thread

Post by **R00k** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:26 pm

That's possible too. Once again, a real investigation would clear up a lot of unneccessary speculation about this.

In my opinion it could have been Israel as easily as Pakistan, simply because we know there were Israeli intelligence operatives working within our borders at the time. There have been no public reports of Pakistani intelligence operatives appearing close to the hijackers and close to government/military facilities and trying to hide their identities. Also, there were the dancing guys on the van.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:29 pm

professional analysis in this forum

Post by **Freakaloin** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:31 pm

u seen press for truth? that documentary makes it crystal clear the govt knew an attack was cumming and did not try to stop it...the only questions r whether or not ppl in the govt aided the terrorists or organized the whole thing...

either way the govt was complicit...so the rest is just gotcha for the morons...which r u?...

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:40 pm

Freakaloin wrote:u seen press for truth? that documentary makes it crystal clear the govt knew an attack was cumming and did not try to stop it...the only questions r whether or not ppl in the govt aided the terrorists or organized the whole thing...

either way the govt was complicit...so the rest is just gotcha for the morons...which r u?...

I am become Death destroyer of worlds. n e questions?

Post by **R00k** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:42 pm

iluvquake4 wrote:Articles in pdf format are always right. It's a known fact on the Internet.

So they are......

http://www.zeuscreative.ie/alexandjamie ... quake4.pdf

Post by **Freakaloin** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:46 pm

jesus...why is it exploding horizontal like that? foot of god?...

Post by **iluvquake4** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:13 pm

I tried that once, didn't work so now it's just:

Post by **Tsakali_** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:31 pm

woah imagine that a few thousand tons of material is free falling and guess what something somehow got struck in a way that gave it an other than a vertical trajectory...omg sorcery I tell yous

Post by **Freakaloin** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:38 pm

free falling 70 meters away eh?...its so obvious yet not to morons...lol...

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:58 pm

Freakaloin wrote:
jesus...why is it exploding horizontal like that? foot of god?...

MORON ALERT!!...

at the time of collapse, the buildings were full of air (rather like your head right now). when the floors fell, all that air had to go somewhere and it was forcefully pushed out sideways, taking debris with it

IT'S SO OBVIOUS...unless ur a mornon...

Post by **iluvquake4** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:00 pm

red bull gives you wings

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:04 pm

shut up, fool

Post by **R00k** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:10 pm

R00k wrote:
iluvquake4 wrote:Articles in pdf format are always right. It's a known fact on the Internet.
So they are......

http://www.zeuscreative.ie/alexandjamie ... quake4.pdf

Post by **iluvquake4** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:13 pm

this reply refutes all prior claims

Post by **Freakaloin** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:42 pm

seremtan wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:
jesus...why is it exploding horizontal like that? foot of god?...

MORON ALERT!!...

at the time of collapse, the buildings were full of air (rather like your head right now). when the floors fell, all that air had to go somewhere and it was forcefully pushed out sideways, taking debris with it

IT'S SO OBVIOUS...unless ur a mornon...

lol...air shoots tons of debris 250 feet horizontally thru air...nice try kid...

Post by **4days** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:43 pm

R00k wrote:
R00k wrote:
iluvquake4 wrote:Articles in pdf format are always right. It's a known fact on the Internet.
So they are......

http://www.zeuscreative.ie/alexandjamie ... quake4.pdf

Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:52 pm

As I've already said in this thread: rofl @ arguing physics with Fecalgroin.

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:57 pm

R00k wrote:
R00k wrote:
iluvquake4 wrote:Articles in pdf format are always right. It's a known fact on the Internet.
So they are......

http://www.zeuscreative.ie/alexandjamie ... quake4.pdf

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:05 pm

Freakaloin wrote:
seremtan wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:
jesus...why is it exploding horizontal like that? foot of god?...

MORON ALERT!!...

at the time of collapse, the buildings were full of air (rather like your head right now). when the floors fell, all that air had to go somewhere and it was forcefully pushed out sideways, taking debris with it

IT'S SO OBVIOUS...unless ur a mornon...

lol...air shoots tons of debris 250 feet horizontally thru air...nice try kid...

it isn't shot 250ft horizontally, you gigantic moron. it's also falling down at the same time. 250ft is simply the lateral distance at which it is captured entirely by gravity and begins to fall straight down

if the towers were 63m along the side, and let's say had 4m high ceilings in each floor, that means that for each floor, 15,876 cubic metres of air had to go somewhere VERY QUICKLY. that sounds like plenty of force needed to blow little bits of thin metal and other light crap out "at least 70m"

try again, kiddo

Post by **R00k** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:12 pm

Well, the air isn't likely to shoot out pieces of structural metal that far.

But if no explosives were used in a building like that, then all the exterior framing would not collapse inward the way it does in a controlled demolition - it would be thrown outward by massive falling floors because it would have to absorb some of the force, but there would be nowhere else for it to go, aside from out and down.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:26 pm

R00k wrote:That's possible too. Once again, a real investigation would clear up a lot of unneccessary speculation about this.

In my opinion it could have been Israel as easily as Pakistan, simply because we know there were Israeli intelligence operatives working within our borders at the time. There have been no public reports of Pakistani intelligence operatives appearing close to the hijackers and close to government/military facilities and trying to hide their identities. Also, there were the dancing guys on the van.

I find it deeply disturbing that you would be thinking of Israel when there is so much more to be concerned with in terms of the Pakistan connection.

You do know about the Pakistan connection right?

check this...

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO111A.html

Let's compare it to any case we can make that Israel's Mossad was assisting Al Qaeda and see which one if either seems plausible.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:34 pm

In the second week of August 2001, two high-ranking agents from the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, came to Washington and warned the CIA and FBI that 50 to 200 al-Qaeda terrorists had slipped into the US and were planning an imminent “major assault on the US” aimed at a “large scale target” [Telegraph, 9/16/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01, Ottawa Citizen, 9/17/01 Fox News, 5/17/02]

Yes Israel was one of the countries who warned the U.S.

Was Pakistan?

Now I've been posting here long enough for you and most others to realize I'm no Zionist but let's at least be fair.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:37 pm

yeah the head of isi gave money to atta the day before or something...the head of isi was also with geoge hw bush on 911...at a meeting...and drinks?...

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:52 pm

here's the salon article on the Israeli spies.

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature ... .html?pn=1

Post by **R00k** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:09 am

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
R00k wrote:That's possible too. Once again, a real investigation would clear up a lot of unneccessary speculation about this.

In my opinion it could have been Israel as easily as Pakistan, simply because we know there were Israeli intelligence operatives working within our borders at the time. There have been no public reports of Pakistani intelligence operatives appearing close to the hijackers and close to government/military facilities and trying to hide their identities. Also, there were the dancing guys on the van.
I find it deeply disturbing that you would be thinking of Israel when there is so much more to be concerned with in terms of the Pakistan connection.

You do know about the Pakistan connection right?

check this...

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO111A.html

Let's compare it to any case we can make that Israel's Mossad was assisting Al Qaeda and see which one if either seems plausible.

So hundreds of Israelis are caught not only casing federal buildings (DEA buildings no less), and trying to sneak into them through back doors, but they are even caught visiting agents' homes and other places that they should not even know the locations of. This goes on for over a year and a half - right up to 9/11 - and you find it "deeply disturbing" that I suspect them of something?

I don't understand why you would find that deeply disturbing?

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."

-- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.

To your other points, I certainly never dismissed Pakistan's involvement with the hijackers -- it is certainly just as suspicious.

But why is it disturbing that I would be suspicious of the Israelis who were covertly infiltrating federal facilities?