Cat5e

Post by **shaft** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:28 pm

Is there different grades to this stuff? If you look at Home Depot online you see cat5e "24/4 Pair Telephone Wire". Then I also see cat5e "24-4 Twisted Pair Gigabit Datacom Wire". What about these voice grade/data grade keystone modules?

I have a new house, and it has an On-Q Legrand wiring box. It has this combo module in the box for the telcom, and the data wires are just hanging for now. There are RJ-45 jacks all throughout the house, and 4-port 2X rj-45/2X F-connector where the entertainment centers go. They told me one was for data, and one was for phone. In the wiring enclosure it has all the wiring for the house, all rj-45. Now, all the blue cables have a "phone" tag on them...and they have gray cables with a "data" label on them. But if you read the writing on the wire it all says cat5e. Will I be able to put a gigabit switch in there and turn any port into a data outlet? Or is this blue stuff some cheap ass wire that is only good for voice?

Post by **Doombrain** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:46 pm

i don't see why not. the colours are just so the pullers know what goes where.

Post by **Underpants?** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:51 pm

yeah what doomy said.
It'll work, just be sure your shit is punched down fairly well to the distribution core and jacks. Those modular jack holes seem to work fairly well, too.

Post by **shaft** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:18 am

:icon14:

oh yeah, I picked up a small 8-port gigabit switch, mounted it in the enclosure and tested a few jacks. everything works great. :icon25:

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:42 am

shaft wrote::icon14:

oh yeah, I picked up a small 8-port gigabit switch, mounted it in the enclosure and tested a few jacks. everything works great. :icon25:

Damn decent price too!

:icon25:

Post by **shaft** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:55 am

yeah right, I picked it up for $80 at newegg.

Post by **Underpants?** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:18 pm

THWEET JETHUTH WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO WITH THAT MATHIVE THING?

Post by **shaft** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:06 am

I just noticed you said "jack hole"...lol

Post by **YourGrandpa** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:59 am

You should have done CAT 6.

Post by **Underpants?** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:37 am

why the fuck would anyone do that?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:18 pm

6 cats are better than 5 e-cats? :L

Post by **4days** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:46 pm

Underpants? wrote:why the fuck would anyone do that?

future-proofing?

we've got cat5e in the walls here and there's no fucking way i'm going to dig it all out and plaster over it again unless some really, incredibly nifty technology comes out that demands cat6/a.

btw - has anyone got a link to a good home networking site? never noticed any problems with our network, but then i haven't thought it since plumbing the thing in and having a linux chap try to hack it - maybe it's not as good as it could be anymore, added a lot of devices since then.

just had a look in the router cupboard and it's a godawful snare of wires and home to a few large and healthy spiders.

Post by **DiscoDave** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:11 pm

4days wrote:
Underpants? wrote:why the fuck would anyone do that?
future-proofing?

How much more future proof is cat6 over cat5e? Both do gigabit, both have a maximum length of 90m..

Post by **4days** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:19 pm

http://www.broadbandutopia.com/caandcaco.html

Post by **Underpants?** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:13 pm

cat6 is considered backbone-quality media. Wifi provides as fast a network as 99.999999% of home users will ever use.
Who needs to push gigs of data across a home network, seriously?

Post by **YourGrandpa** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:04 pm

You ask why.... I say, why not.

BTW, why use CAT 5e when you could have used regular CAT 5?

Post by **shaft** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:26 pm

YourGrandpa wrote:You should have done CAT 6.

didn't have a choice in the matter.

Post by **shaft** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:28 pm

Underpants? wrote:cat6 is considered backbone-quality media. Wifi provides as fast a network as 99.999999% of home users will ever use.
Who needs to push gigs of data across a home network, seriously?

I transfer ~3-4gb HD recordings to my media center pc quite often.

Post by **Underpants?** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:36 am

still shouldn't take more than 30 seconds on gigE (cat5)
OH BUT WILL YOU EVER GET THOSE 5 SECONDS OF YOUR LIFE BACK THAT YOU COULD SAVE WITH CAT6?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:49 am

Underpants? wrote:still shouldn't take more than 30 seconds on gigE (cat5)
OH BUT WILL YOU EVER GET THOSE 5 SECONDS OF YOUR LIFE BACK THAT YOU COULD SAVE WITH CAT6?

5 SECS IS 2 POSTS IN THE VOID

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:12 am

shaft wrote:
Underpants? wrote:cat6 is considered backbone-quality media. Wifi provides as fast a network as 99.999999% of home users will ever use.
Who needs to push gigs of data across a home network, seriously?
I transfer ~3-4gb HD recordings to my media center pc quite often.

:Up:

i wouldent be able to take the wait time with 802.11G Vs Standard 10/100

the next house, the Media center and my main Box are getting a Giga switch..

Post by **shaft** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:57 am

Underpants? wrote:still shouldn't take more than 30 seconds on gigE (cat5)
OH BUT WILL YOU EVER GET THOSE 5 SECONDS OF YOUR LIFE BACK THAT YOU COULD SAVE WITH CAT6?

Actually over 10/100 it took 7+ minutes. Now it takes like 3 minutes or less.

I dont have cat6, I am running gigabit over cat5e. Are we talking about the same thing here?

Post by **Underpants?** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:22 am

yeah--is that with no other applications running? Somehow doesn't seem right...

Post by **dzjepp** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:45 pm

hey speaking of which, where can i get some cheapo cat5? i need 3 pairs of 15-20 feet each. best buy and the likes sells cat6 for 30-40usd which is gay. are there mom and pop shops that would roll some cat5 for me cheaper that i should look for?

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:53 am

i dont know where you love Jepp, but all of my local comp shops would sell 20 foot patches for ~$10 Canadian..

the chain stores want a small mint for them,

Check around in the smaller shops, they will hook you up.