Bill O'Reilly interviews Richard Dawkins tomorrow night

Post by **tnf** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:02 pm

Dunno if I'll be able to watch it...
http://richarddawkins.net/article,900,N ... r-Fox-News

Not sure why Dawkin's is even entertaining an O'Reilly interview, because the man is an abject moron. He's also good at things like cutting his guests mic when they point out his bullshit. He did that a few months ago to a 29 year army vet who had criticized the treatment of prisoners at Gitmo...he said something along the lines of 'at some point she started hating this country' to which she replied that she loved the country and spent 29 years of her life serving it...then asked him how many years he spent serving his country - at which point he cut the mic.

Post by **4days** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:14 pm

it could be a responsibility to a publisher. can't imagine it's for reaching new people to preach reason - no-one's going to be watching o'reilly to find that.

not related to o'reilly - but from dawkins site:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

Post by **seremtan** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:28 pm

4days wrote:not related to o'reilly - but from dawkins site:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

oh dear

the way he opened that jar and looked and said "no new life", like he was expecting evolution to leap ahead 100s of thousands of generations from self-replicating proteins to some kind of lifeform visible to the naked eye in a matter of days

Post by **Nightshade** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:10 pm

I've got to hand it to creationists and republicans. They capitalize on the general public's ignorance but painting their arguments with a fine patina of scientific legitimacy. Just enough for the dolts to point at and say "See? You kooky evolutionists are not only heathens, but nuts as well. LOL."

Post by **mjrpes** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:08 am

4days wrote:not related to o'reilly - but from dawkins site:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

holy shit. that's fucked up right there.

Post by **tnf** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:41 am

is it a creationist video? if so i can't watch it. my blood pressure spikes to about 400/200 and blood squirts out of my right eye right onto the monitor.

Post by **Scourge** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:48 am

tnf wrote:is it a creationist video? if so i can't watch it. my blood pressure spikes to about 400/200 and blood squirts out of my right eye right onto the monitor.

Yeah, something like that. Nearly as bad as the banana thing.

edit: Oh, and this response to the banana video is worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HW06Wz_ ... ed&search=

Post by **tnf** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:52 am

the banana thing?

Speaking of creationists, I thought it was funny that one of the major creationist types - Dr.Ken Hovind, named "Dr.Dino" - the guy who had some challenge where he would give a million or somethign for 'proof' of evolution, was found guilty of 40+ counts of tax evasion with his wife...
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/16451/k ... all-counts

Post by **Scourge** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:58 am

tnf wrote:the banana thing?

Creationist video using the shape of the banana and some other crap trying to prove that god designed the banana intentionally for humans.

Post by **mjrpes** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:11 am

tnf wrote:is it a creationist video?

because you don't open a jar of peanut butter and see that spontaneous life has formed.... evolution must be false

Post by **tnf** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:32 am

I hope one of my students doesn't pull that argument out tomorrow in class.

Post by **S@M** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:46 am

tnf wrote:the banana thing?

Speaking of creationists, I thought it was funny that one of the major creationist types - Dr.Ken Hovind, named "Dr.Dino" - the guy who had some challenge where he would give a million or somethign for 'proof' of evolution, was found guilty of 40+ counts of tax evasion with his wife...
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/16451/k ... all-counts

404 error from that link

nm, found another but its an inquiry, he has not been found guilty or otherwise of anything yet as far as i can tell.

Post by **Kat** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:45 am

Scourge wrote:
tnf wrote:the banana thing?

Creationist video using the shape of the banana and some other crap trying to prove that god designed the banana intentionally for humans.

Have they got an expanation why monkeys like them? (given that everything was put on earth for 'us' - "Designed by him for you")

Post by **Hannibal** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:03 am

Kent Hovind, whose life’s mission is to debunk evolution, says he and his employees are workers of God and therefore exempt from paying taxes.

Post by **tnf** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:06 am

S@M wrote:
tnf wrote:the banana thing?

Speaking of creationists, I thought it was funny that one of the major creationist types - Dr.Ken Hovind, named "Dr.Dino" - the guy who had some challenge where he would give a million or somethign for 'proof' of evolution, was found guilty of 40+ counts of tax evasion with his wife...
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/16451/k ... all-counts
404 error from that link

nm, found another but its an inquiry, he has not been found guilty or otherwise of anything yet as far as i can tell.

No he was found guilty - latest issue of skeptical inquirer has the ruling in it.

He was found guilty on November 2 2006.

Post by **Scourge** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:54 am

Kat wrote:
Scourge wrote:
tnf wrote:the banana thing?

Creationist video using the shape of the banana and some other crap trying to prove that god designed the banana intentionally for humans.
Have they got an expanation why monkeys like them? (given that everything was put on earth for 'us' - "Designed by him for you")

Nope.

Post by **zeeko** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:29 am

THE GOD DELUSION

Post by **Pooinyourmouth** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:38 pm

Oh I thought this was a Richard Dawson thread.

Post by **tnf** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:56 am

I started with evolution today.
But I did it in secret by discussing antibiotic resistance with no mention of Evilution. My plan is to get them to understand and accept microevolution (not using the term) and then essentially dropping evolution on them as something they already know and have been agreeing with and explaining already. We'll see how it works...most of them aren't going to have any problems with evolution, but I'm hoping to get through to some of the closed-minded ones by making them see the logic behind the science before even bringing up the term and forcing them to turn off their brains for fear of burning in hell.

Funny how people have trouble going from an acceptance of microevolution to macroevolution.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:18 am

vid here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8etMHn4 ... Fox%2DNews

if you're expecting any depth, look elsewhere. Works out well for dawkins as his book gets publicity.

Post by **mjrpes** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:04 am

i was expecting heads to fly. what a downer.

Post by **MKJ** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:25 am

tnf wrote:I started with evolution today.
But I did it in secret by discussing antibiotic resistance with no mention of Evilution. My plan is to get them to understand and accept microevolution (not using the term) and then essentially dropping evolution on them as something they already know and have been agreeing with and explaining already. We'll see how it works...most of them aren't going to have any problems with evolution, but I'm hoping to get through to some of the closed-minded ones by making them see the logic behind the science before even bringing up the term and forcing them to turn off their brains for fear of burning in hell.

Funny how people have trouble going from an acceptance of microevolution to macroevolution.

funny how you have to fucking tiptoe around a fucking scientific term.. AS A SCIENCETEACHER.

jesus h christ

Post by **Grudge** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:30 am

MKJ wrote:jesus h christ

indeed

Post by **Tsakali_** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:50 pm

[xeno]Julios wrote:vid here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8etMHn4 ... Fox%2DNews

if you're expecting any depth, look elsewhere. Works out well for dawkins as his book gets publicity.

lol the religious arrogance with this guy is homicide worthy.

ps
I can't believe dawkins had to sink so low as to entertain this guys bs just for some publicity

Post by **Tsakali_** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:02 pm

MKJ wrote:
tnf wrote:I started with evolution today.
But I did it in secret by discussing antibiotic resistance with no mention of Evilution. My plan is to get them to understand and accept microevolution (not using the term) and then essentially dropping evolution on them as something they already know and have been agreeing with and explaining already. We'll see how it works...most of them aren't going to have any problems with evolution, but I'm hoping to get through to some of the closed-minded ones by making them see the logic behind the science before even bringing up the term and forcing them to turn off their brains for fear of burning in hell.

Funny how people have trouble going from an acceptance of microevolution to macroevolution.
funny how you have to fucking tiptoe around a fucking scientific term.. AS A SCIENCETEACHER.

jesus h christ

a coworker of mine has a 1 year old boy and from the looks of it the poor kid is already doomed with an adolescence full of uninformed speculations and dogmas, I can see how tnf's job comes off as almost impossible