looks like fedor *may* be coming to the ufc

[[xeno]Julios]

if the rumor mills are to be believed.

also, here's a great article on mma safety - feedback you'll like this one:

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/tem ... 7&zoneid=3

[R00k]

fedor is the man.

i look forward to the day when i can see him ground-pounding some UFC dickhead's face with his forearms.

Of course it's possible that moving to UFC fights will be a bit of a system shock to Fedor... But somehow I doubt he's going to wind up like Crocop's first fight.

I really look forward to seeing this, if it really happens. It will be a good test to show that either Fedor really is the baddest motherfucker around, or if isolation to Pride fights has made him appear more formidable than he is... I'm leaning toward the former.

[[xeno]Julios]

he's been training elbows for a while, according to recent interviews.

His broad combat experience will most likely be an asset in adapting to the new environment.

And considering he dominated the pride heavyweight pool while it was the deepest talent pool on the planet, I don't think he's gonna have too much to worry bout!

But yea, as this last year has shown, anything seems possible. I get the impression that in mma, unlike boxing, tennis, etc., one small mistake is all you need to lose a fight. That's what makes fedor so great - he's like the only motherfucker who hasn't suffered an upset (or defeat, for that matter).

[scared?]

federer would be better...

[feedback]

thanks jules I'm reading the article now. IMO the UFC's cage does give it a bad image. I also think the allowed use of elbows makes it's image worse because of the superficial cutting damage they do, resulting in most of the blood you see. Basically I think Pride was a better representative of MMA than UFC is.

I'm looking forward to seeing Cro-Cop fight Kongo at UFC 75, it should be a good kickboxing match while it lasts.

FYI interesting fact: Fabricio Werdum, training partner of Cro-Cop's for years, fought and beat Gabriel Gonzaga in 2003.

[[xeno]Julios]

i didn't read part 1 of that article - only the second instalment where it talks specifically about safety.

dunno much about kongo - saw his last fight, but yea should be interesting to see how crocop handles himself

werdum & crocop is a great example of mutualism - i wonder if there'll ever be a day where crocop attempts a ground submission. I'd seen the beginning of gonzaga vs werdum - looked like they were fighting in a jungle

If crocop goes on a final tear, and re-establishes his mystique, crocop-fedor 2 is gonna be a reality worth rooting for.

what are your thoughts on chuck vs wanderlei? (and jackson vs henderson)?

[feedback]

i didn't read part 1 of that article - only the second instalment where it talks specifically about safety.

dunno much about kongo - saw his last fight, but yea should be interesting to see how crocop handles himself

werdum & crocop is a great example of mutualism - i wonder if there'll ever be a day where crocop attempts a ground submission. I'd seen the beginning of gonzaga vs werdum - looked like they were fighting in a jungle

If crocop goes on a final tear, and re-establishes his mystique, crocop-fedor 2 is gonna be a reality worth rooting for.

what are your thoughts on chuck vs wanderlei? (and jackson vs henderson)?

Chuck vs. Wanderlei... 3? Shouldn't be done unless Chuck continues to do well. He lost against Wanderlei twice... not sure if he should get a 3rd. Jackson vs. Henderson, I'd go for Henderson.

[[xeno]Julios]

Chuck vs. Wanderlei... 3? Shouldn't be done unless Chuck continues to do well. He lost against Wanderlei twice... not sure if he should get a 3rd. Jackson vs. Henderson, I'd go for Henderson.

eh? chuck's never fought wanderlei. They're scheduled to fight soon though. You confusing chuck or wanderlei with jackson?

[bitWISE]

k fed?

[[xeno]Julios]

?...

[bitWISE]

The only fedor i know of is kevin fedorline. Was making a lame joke.

[[xeno]Julios]

ah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I-6UVNpAXo

[R00k]

his wiki entry says he's had one loss?

[[xeno]Julios]

his wiki entry says he's had one loss?

doesn't count in most people's books. It was a few seconds into the first round, and his opponent elbowed him in the head, which was an illegal strike under RINGS rules. The fight was stopped because of excessive bleeding, and his opponent (Tsuyoshi Kohsaka) was declared the winner because it was a tournament format and they needed to advance a fighter to the next round.

Kohsaka should have been disqualified, and fedor should have been advanced.

Five years later, they had a rematch in Pride, and fedor utterly destroyed him. The doctor stopped the match - it was getting fucking ugly.

here's the first match:

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/se ... ka-vs-fedo

[R00k]

lol, what a gyp.

there's a link to their rematch on that page as well. looks like Kohsaka was repaid in spades when they hooked up again.

[[xeno]Julios]

gyp or not, it is an example of fedor's biggest weakness - he bleeds extremely easily.

Apparently this is a common trait among russian boxers.

This may be an issue for him in the UFC where elbows are a factor.

[feedback]

Chuck vs. Wanderlei... 3? Shouldn't be done unless Chuck continues to do well. He lost against Wanderlei twice... not sure if he should get a 3rd. Jackson vs. Henderson, I'd go for Henderson.

eh? chuck's never fought wanderlei. They're scheduled to fight soon though. You confusing chuck or wanderlei with jackson?

sorry thought you meant jackson silva

I would approve of chuck silva so Dana can finish off that crow he's eating

[LawL]

But somehow I doubt he's going to wind up like Crocop's first fight.

So you think Fedor will lose? rofl...

[+JuggerNaut+]

federer would be better...

'cept not on clay

[[xeno]Julios]

But somehow I doubt he's going to wind up like Crocop's first fight.

So you think Fedor will lose? rofl...

i think he meant crocop vs gonzaga - his second fight in the cage.

[andyman]

when are they going to do something with joe rogan and his coked out announcing....

[LawL]

But somehow I doubt he's going to wind up like Crocop's first fight.

So you think Fedor will lose? rofl...

i think he meant crocop vs gonzaga - his second fight in the cage.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[R00k]

I didn't see Crocop's first UFC match then -- who did he fight?

[[xeno]Julios]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirko_Fili ... rts_record

he dominated sanchez

[Cyanex]

Basically I think Pride was a better representative of MMA than UFC is.

UFC is now the biggest MMA corporation in the world, and its cage and Americanism is whats giving it a bad name. From originally watching UFC, I swapped to Pride, and didn't bother watching UFC at all after that. All people see in UFC is two macho psycho-eyes beating the living shit out of each other. Then people think about the not-so-established Cage companies (king of the cage etc.). These companies can afford one light, and some old fencing to make a cage out of, and it just looks like two guys have been taken straight from a bar fight. Even though UFC is the leader now, it's shadowed by the shadier image of the less-supported companies.

In Pride I originally thought that the use of a ring wasn't as appealing, but after continuing to watch Pride it came out as less barbaric than UFC's Cage. Pride also had many good fighters, which are now being forced to go to UFC or die out in Pride.
Rampage had no hope in Pride, and ran off to UFC, and beat one of UFCs best fighters. :lol:

I will always prefer Pride over UFC. UFC gives off a barbaric image to me, and I am a big fan of MMA. It's clear that the people who do not follow it have nothing but negative images in their mind about the sport.