michael moore served a subpoena

Post by **scared?** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:47 pm

backstage at the jay leno show...

lol...pathetic...

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Michael_M ... _0727.html

Post by **Magnus** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:53 pm

Wiat, that fat ignorant glory hound put down the rescue workers and anyone who helped clean up the 9/11 mess for quite a while and now he has done a 180 on this?

Heh... he will swear he was always behind the rescue workers and that any footage or recordings or quites of him putting those same workers down are a conspiricy and are doctored or made up.

What a lame nergin busybody.

Post by **bitWISE** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:55 pm

A subpoena for what?

Post by **Tsakali_** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:56 pm

that word offends me sexually

Post by **scared?** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:01 pm

bitWISE wrote:A subpoena for what?

they want to arrest him for going to cuba...

Post by **Tsakali_** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:02 pm

I didn't know that was illegal :icon6:

Post by **Ryoki** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:04 pm

trade embargo

Post by **Magnus** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:05 pm

Tsakali_ wrote:I didn't know that was illegal :icon6:

Yea for several decades now IIRC. Embargoes and such. Amreican travel to Cuba is an illegal offence.

Post by **scared?** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:07 pm

no its not...

Post by **Tsakali_** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:07 pm

ohh, that's kind of gay but I guess I get it.

Post by **scared?** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:08 pm

we can go to cuba if we want...moore did nothing wrong. they r harassing him...

Post by **Fender** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:33 pm

scared? wrote:we can go to cuba if we want...moore did nothing wrong. they r harassing him...

Only for journalism or something like that. Regular travel is prohibited. Of course, I'd say that filming a documentary covers journalism.

Post by **bitWISE** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:37 pm

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6970781

???

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:48 pm

here's the video:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/subpoena-moore/

its definately a bullshit charge... They're probably trying to get him on trade violations; since the workers received healthcare it could constitue a "gift transaction" received in cuba.

here's info on the lame ass legal shit surrounding cuba:

http://www.ibike.org/cuba/ofac/cuba-travelto.htm

Most everybody in the world, except Cuban-born-non-Cuban citizens, and ANYBODY under United States jurisdiction, can travel to and from Cuba freely. If you are a Cuban-born non-Cuban citizen, you will need to apply for a visa at a Cuban Embassy. For all other North American and EEC citizens, traveling to Cuba as short-term visitors, you need a passport and the tourist cards that is issued with your plane ticket to Cuba. Cuba welcomes non-Cuban born U.S. tourists with no red tape.

For anybody under United States jurisdiction there is one additional level of complexity. The U.S. has a partial embargo of trade with Cuba. The embargo is enforced by the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) as part of their work as a lead agency against terrorism (1/6th of their anti-terrorism work is focused at going after Americans who visit Cuba.) In conjunction with this, OFAC is increasingly limiting people opportunities to learn about Cuba. For the official word on US policies to http://www.ustreas.gov/ofac. To learn about travel sanctions for Cuba search for "travel transactions Cuba". For general information on sanctions, click on the "Sanctions Program" link. Here is the gist of what is said on travel to Cuba:

It is legal for Americans to go to Cuba.
It is illegal for American to have transactions (spend money or receive gifts) in Cuba under most circumstances.
It is legal for American to have transactions (spend money or receive gifts) in Cuba if they have a "license", but the government is arbitrary about how it interprets its rule and who it issues licenses to.

If you are a journalists, government officials, have relatives in Cuba, are a full-time professionals (including doctors, dental hygienists, environmentalists and actors) going to conferences or doing research, you might be able to go to Cuba, under a "General License" -- with no red tape.

Post by **seremtan** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:12 pm

Magnus wrote:
Tsakali_ wrote:I didn't know that was illegal :icon6:
Yea for several decades now IIRC. Embargoes and such. Amreican travel to Cuba is an illegal offence.

yeah, they're afraid weak, snivelling americans will catch communism or something

pathetic

Post by **Dukester** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:04 pm

seremtan wrote:
Magnus wrote:
Tsakali_ wrote:I didn't know that was illegal :icon6:
Yea for several decades now IIRC. Embargoes and such. Amreican travel to Cuba is an illegal offence.
yeah, they're afraid weak, snivelling americans will catch communism or something

pathetic

or maybe trying to stop any money from going into the cuban economy or something

Post by **R00k** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:07 pm

Magnus wrote:Wiat, that fat ignorant glory hound put down the rescue workers and anyone who helped clean up the 9/11 mess for quite a while and now he has done a 180 on this?

Heh... he will swear he was always behind the rescue workers and that any footage or recordings or quites of him putting those same workers down are a conspiricy and are doctored or made up.

What a lame nergin busybody.

When did Michael Moore put down rescue workers and people helping clean up after 9/11?

Post by **cumpooper** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:12 pm

but we can have an imprisonment camp there

nothing but sweet...

Post by **Maiden** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:57 pm

bitWISE wrote:http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6970781

???

they had to seek permission from the government first and got it because they played for free, under the banner of cultural exchange.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:00 pm

bitWISE wrote:http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6970781

???

fyi - the new Cornell solo album is fucking awesome.

Post by **seremtan** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:08 am

Dukester wrote:
seremtan wrote:
Magnus wrote: Yea for several decades now IIRC. Embargoes and such. Amreican travel to Cuba is an illegal offence.
yeah, they're afraid weak, snivelling americans will catch communism or something

pathetic

or maybe trying to stop any money from going into the cuban economy or something

or maybe it's just bitterness after the bay of pigs fiasco and having to live for nearly 50 years with a tiny commie country in america's 'backyard' that it can't do anything about :icon23:

Post by **obsidian** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:48 am

And the Cuban economy is doing fine. Unlike some other country.

Post by **Captain** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:51 am

obsidian wrote:And the Cuban economy is doing fine. Unlike some other country.

Truth :icon14: