LAN Question for Vista/xp computers at home

[spacedoggy]

Hello - Thanks for reading this!

I have a Vista and XP computer as well as some Macs connected by Airport Extreme except the pcs which are connected by cable into the back of airport.
I wanted to play Quake 3 Arena via LAN and ive read all the posts re set up, but still cant get it to work.

If I try to set a new server on the faster compter, this is what I get:

Q3 1.30 win-x86 Aug 20 2001
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak6.pk3 (64 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak5.pk3 (7 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak4.pk3 (272 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak3.pk3 (4 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak2.pk3 (148 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak1.pk3 (26 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak0.pk3 (3539 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena/baseq3

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4060 files in pk3 files
execing default.cfg
execing q3config.cfg
couldn't exec autoexec.cfg
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
...detecting CPU, found Intel Pentium III

------- Input Initialization -------
Initializing DirectInput...
Couldn't set DI coop level
Falling back to Win32 mouse support...
Joystick is not active.
------------------------------------
----- Client Initialization -----
----- Initializing Renderer ----
-------------------------------
----- Client Initialization Complete -----
----- R_Init -----
Initializing OpenGL subsystem
...initializing QGL
...calling LoadLibrary( 'C:\Windows\system32\opengl32.dll' ): succeeded
...setting mode 3: 640 480 FS
...using desktop display depth of 32
...calling CDS: ok
...registered window class
...created window@0,0 (640x480)
Initializing OpenGL driver
...getting DC: succeeded
...GLW_ChoosePFD( 32, 24, 8 )
...113 PFDs found
...hardware acceleration found
...PIXELFORMAT 9 selected
...creating GL context: succeeded
...making context current: succeeded
Initializing OpenGL extensions
...ignoring GL_S3_s3tc
...using GL_EXT_texture_env_add
...using WGL_EXT_swap_control
...using GL_ARB_multitexture
...using GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array
...WGL_3DFX_gamma_control not found

GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation
GL_RENDERER: GeForce 8500 GT/PCI/SSE2
GL_VERSION: 2.1.1
GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_draw_buffers GL_ATI_texture_float GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_S3_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_Cg_shader GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color GL_NV_depth_clamp GL_NV_fence GL_NV_float_buffer GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_fragment_program GL_NV_fragment_program_option GL_NV_fragment_program2 GL_NV_half_float GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_multisample_filter_hint GL_NV_occlusion_query GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_pixel_data_range GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_primitive_restart GL_NV_register_combiners GL_NV_register_combiners2 GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_compression_vtc GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_expand_normal GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_texture_shader GL_NV_texture_shader2 GL_NV_texture_shader3 GL_NV_vertex_array_range GL_NV_vertex_array_range2 GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_NV_vertex_program2 GL_NV_vertex_program2_option GL_NV_vertex_program3 GL_NVX_conditional_render GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth_texture GL_SGIX_shadow GL_SUN_slice_accum GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 8192
GL_MAX_ACTIVE_TEXTURES_ARB: 4

PIXELFORMAT: color(32-bits) Z(24-bit) stencil(8-bits)
MODE: 3, 640 x 480 fullscreen hz:60
GAMMA: hardware w/ 0 overbright bits
CPU: Intel Pentium III
rendering primitives: single glDrawElements
texturemode: GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST
picmip: 1
texture bits: 0
multitexture: enabled
compiled vertex arrays: enabled
texenv add: enabled
compressed textures: disabled
Initializing Shaders
...loading 'scripts/lightningnew.shader'
...loading 'scripts/explode1.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gfx.shader'
...loading 'scripts/tim.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_button.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_floor.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_light.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_object.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_support.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_trim.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_wall.shader'
...loading 'scripts/common.shader'
...loading 'scripts/ctf.shader'
...loading 'scripts/eerie.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_block.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_floor.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_light.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_trim.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_wall.shader'
...loading 'scripts/hell.shader'
...loading 'scripts/liquid.shader'
...loading 'scripts/menu.shader'
...loading 'scripts/models.shader'
...loading 'scripts/organics.shader'
...loading 'scripts/sfx.shader'
...loading 'scripts/shrine.shader'
...loading 'scripts/skin.shader'
...loading 'scripts/sky.shader'
...loading 'scripts/test.shader'
----- finished R_Init -----

------- sound initialization -------
Initializing DirectSound
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----- Sound Info -----
sound system is muted
1 stereo
32768 samples
16 samplebits
1 submission_chunk
22050 speed
0xc480050 dma buffer
No background file.
----------------------
Sound memory manager started
Loading vm file vm/ui.qvm.
VM file ui compiled to 581960 bytes of code
ui loaded in 1943200 bytes on the hunk
35 arenas parsed
32 bots parsed
--- Common Initialization Complete ---
Winsock Initialized
Opening IP socket: localhost:27960
Hostname: TerenceMonro-PC
IP: 10.0.1.200
Working directory: C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena
Scanning for servers on the local network...
----- CL_Shutdown -----
RE_Shutdown( 1 )
Shutting down OpenGL subsystem
...wglMakeCurrent( NULL, NULL ): success
...deleting GL context: success
...releasing DC: success
...destroying window
...resetting display
...shutting down QGL
...unloading OpenGL DLL
-----------------------
Hitch warning: 850 msec frame time
------ Server Initialization ------
Server: Q3DM1
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak6.pk3 (64 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak5.pk3 (7 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak4.pk3 (272 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak3.pk3 (4 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak2.pk3 (148 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak1.pk3 (26 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\baseq3\pak0.pk3 (3539 files)
C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena/baseq3

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8120 files in pk3 files
Loading vm file vm/qagame.qvm.
VM file qagame compiled to 1137067 bytes of code
qagame loaded in 3820512 bytes on the hunk
------- Game Initialization -------
gamename: baseq3
gamedate: Aug 20 2001
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InitGame: \dmflags\0\fraglimit\20\timelimit\0\sv_hostname\test\sv_maxclients\8\sv_maxRate\0\sv_minPing\0\sv_maxPing\0\sv_floodProtect\1\g_maxGameClients\0\capturelimit\0\version\Q3 1.30 win-x86 Aug 20 2001\g_gametype\0\protocol\66\mapname\Q3DM1\sv_privateClients\0\sv_allowAnonymous\0\sv_allowDownload\0\gamename\baseq3\g_needpass\0
0 teams with 0 entities
12 items registered
-----------------------------------
------- BotLib Initialization -------
loaded weapons.c
loaded items.c
loaded syn.c
loaded rnd.c
loaded match.c
loaded rchat.c
------------ Map Loading ------------
trying to load maps/Q3DM1.aas
loaded maps/Q3DM1.aas
found 18 level items
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32 bots parsed
35 arenas parsed
AAS initialized.
-----------------------------------
Hitch warning: 1507 msec frame time

Then the game quits to a small blue screen that displays the info above!

Any help would be great

Cheers
Terry (Australia)

[creep]

Well it basically looks like you're somehow starting a dedicated server from within the game. Dedicated server is not a game client, it's just a server, the "small blue screen" that you're seeing.

You either want to make a listen server (which is a game client other people can connect to, then the server and other people play) OR a dedicated server, which is JUST a server for others to connect to.

Would help if you explain what you're doing to get this result, then I can tell you where you're going wrong.

[spacedoggy]

Thanks for your help "creep"

Yep, I just want to hook up the 2 pcs so I can play in one room, and my mate in the other room. Not via the net.

So on the Vista machine, I start Q3A, then select multiplayer, then server "local" then create, then select a map, then LAN. The game then disappears and the blue box with the writing appears.

I then go into the other room, open Q#A on XP, choose Multiplayer, but cant see any local servers listed.

Sorry to be a dumass

Terry

[creep]

Where you're setting:

Dedicated: LAN

Change that to:

Dedicated: No

You should be set. I also noticed you appear to be using q3 version 1.30. You will need to be using the same version on both computers.

[spacedoggy]

Thanks - That get the game launched on the Vista machine, but when I start the XP I still cant find any server / game to join to - and yep - running the same Q3A on both machines.

[creep]

no idea beyond that. works fine for me.

Ensure that on the server browser screen you have

Servers: Local
Game Type: All
Show Full: on
Show empty: on

oh... you may need to turn off windows firewall on the "server" computer. lol.

[Foo]

Try starting the server from the XP machine then connecting with the Vista machine.

I would guess your firewall products are preventing things working smoothly.

Also ensure both copies of the game are on the same version number (bring down the console, look in right-hand corner)

[spacedoggy]

I disabled both firewalls on the vista and xp but still nothing. This is what I do.....

Both machines have Q3 1.30

On the Vista Machine:
Double Click Q3A Icon
Select Multiplayer
Select Servers Local - Game Type Free for all - Sort by Ping Time - Show Full - On - Show Empty - On
Select - Create
Select Map Q3DM1
Select Next
Select Frag Limit 20 - Time Limit 0 - Pure Server On - Dedicated LAN - Hostname noname
Select Fight

The Game then disappears, and a small blue (dos?) box appears with lots of writing...

Then as that box remains on the screen, I again double click on the Q3A Icon and launch a second time...

I select Multiplayer... AND I SEE THE SERVER So I join the game..... HOWEVER

I then go to the other room (remember both machines are connected via airport extreme) but have their firewalls disabled (eeeep!)

On the XP, I double click Q3A Icon

Select Multiplayer.... and nothing... no servers listed

Ok.... so what am I doing wrong guys?

Cheers
Terry

[spacedoggy]

Hey Foo and Creep! Its working !!!!! I have McAfee installed on both machines - It was fine on Vista but blocking the XP machine, so I granted it full access and bingo!

Thanks for your your help guys - IM OFF TO FRAG!!!!

Cheers
Terry - Spacedoggy