Shooting with analog cameras would teach me alot actually, but I don't have so it's all digital for me.l0g1c wrote:Flickr has a feature where you can search by camera if that will help you in your decision making.
Tbh, I'd go for something mid-range or used. By the time you are experienced enough to identify the shortcomings of your camera, technology will have advanced and you can step up again.
I'm using a 20-year old camera and still learning some of the finer points of photography, so that's where I'm coming from.
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it's all about the cash.werldhed wrote:Oy, foto geeks. I need some advice. Didn't want to start a brand new thread, but feel free to move it if you want.
I'll be requesting a new dSLR as a gift, but I have no real experience with any. I don't really have any skill as a photographer, but I would like something that can be useful as I seriously try to improve. I've been wading through dpreview.com, but a lot of it gets to be gibberish to me.
My big question is whether it is worth it, as an amateur, to ask for a 40D vs. 30D vs. 400D. As a novice, it seems like it's not worth it to look beyond the 400D, and the price makes it more likely that someone would buy it for me. HOWEVER, I'd like to invest in a good camera, and I'm hesitant to get one that can be bought at Target. Will I see obvious increases in quality with the 40D? Can I justify asking for it?
I have a Powershot A95 already, and I know Canon has some shortcomings, such as the indoor whitebalance, built-in flash, and redeye. But is it any worse than other brands?
So... advice? Should I focus on Nikon instead? I noticed the D200 lacks the crispness of the 40D, but the 40D also seemed to have some resolution artifacts that the D200 did not. And if it turns out the 400D is good enough, should I think about a D80, as well?
How do lenses compare between the companies? What starter lenses should I ask for?
Or should I just ask for a used 5D instead? I'm in over my head. Thanks for any suggestions.
don't bother with the 300, 350, 400 etc. if you don't have it to spend look for a good 2nd hand 20d. if you have a little more find a new 30d and so on.
if you take off with dSLRs you'll be selling up to go FF within a few years so i wouldn't spend loads on a new dSLR now.
The 20d is a great dSLR to start with and you should get a great price. I sold mine with a grip for £360.
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I think you'd learn just as much by slowly turning off different features of your cameraMaCaBr3 wrote:Shooting with analog cameras would teach me alot actually, but I don't have so it's all digital for me.l0g1c wrote:Flickr has a feature where you can search by camera if that will help you in your decision making.
Tbh, I'd go for something mid-range or used. By the time you are experienced enough to identify the shortcomings of your camera, technology will have advanced and you can step up again.
I'm using a 20-year old camera and still learning some of the finer points of photography, so that's where I'm coming from.

Aperture priority + manual focus = instant Depth of Field lesson.
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thanks for the suggestions, doombrain and log1c. I'm looking at new cameras because this will be something I ask for as a wedding gift. One option might be to ask for a new 400d, and if I get one, return it and use the money to buy a used 20d or something.
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Dunno if you mentioned it somewhere else, but congrats all the samewerldhed wrote:thanks for the suggestions, doombrain and log1c. I'm looking at new cameras because this will be something I ask for as a wedding gift. One option might be to ask for a new 400d, and if I get one, return it and use the money to buy a used 20d or something.

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A few minutes walk from my apartment is a nice little park across the river. Took a few pics a few weekends ago and thought I would at least share one.

heh, I know nothing about taking pictures... other than push that little button. But really admire some of the pictures in this thread. Nice stuff.

heh, I know nothing about taking pictures... other than push that little button. But really admire some of the pictures in this thread. Nice stuff.

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I didn't, but thanks.l0g1c wrote:Dunno if you mentioned it somewhere else, but congrats all the samewerldhed wrote:thanks for the suggestions, doombrain and log1c. I'm looking at new cameras because this will be something I ask for as a wedding gift. One option might be to ask for a new 400d, and if I get one, return it and use the money to buy a used 20d or something.

Now I just have to convince the fiancée that we want the more expensive camera...
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is that the new lunch combo at applebee's?l0g1c wrote: I like this one, too.
[lvlshot]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2190/2259469511_859b4c215a_o.jpg[/lvlshot]
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Again not a photo, but this was the last piece of work I did. Just something for myself. Photoshop + 3D rendering. Took about 30 hours in total.
http://innerstateevents.com/images/birth_divide.jpg
http://innerstateevents.com/images/birth_divide.jpg
[quote="GONNAFISTYA"]You might as well have complained about the Mona Lisa right after Michelangelo painted the first two strokes of his brush.[/quote]
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most excellent work there brisk 

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I can't imagine spending 30 hours on anything.. I think even with developing and printing, I barely spend 10% of that.
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Here's a couple I did last week.. I'd scan some others, but I need to smash them down in a book for awhile before they'll lay flat 





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cool.
i'm digging your recent-ish portfolio, daeb. skillz ++
i'm digging your recent-ish portfolio, daeb. skillz ++
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Wonder how many will give flack over the REAL progression over the sky. The Moon and sun both rise in the east, not the west.
Also, I must have been the only one to brave the frigged temps last night.

Then these rolled in and squashed my whole endeavor.

Also, I must have been the only one to brave the frigged temps last night.

Then these rolled in and squashed my whole endeavor.

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is that suppose to be a baby, with an egg beside it, with semen below it?brisk wrote:Again not a photo, but this was the last piece of work I did. Just something for myself. Photoshop + 3D rendering. Took about 30 hours in total.
http://innerstateevents.com/images/birth_divide.jpg
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some more x-pro. Film circa '85 stuff (hence the grain, fucked up colors)


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Fanatic X wrote:cool.
i'm digging your recent-ish portfolio, daeb. skillz ++

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lol. Good sick or bad?Dave wrote:That's some sick color.
I'm still experimenting

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lol.. Sick as in i don't have any idea. It's just liek whoa. The green cast makes me think it was Fujil0g1c wrote:lol. Good sick or bad?Dave wrote:That's some sick color.
I'm still experimenting
BTW, if you want some really cool stuff to cross, try Kodak E100VS. I had some stuff that may or may have not been expired and it came out almost normal, but with some really intense color and an odd yellow cast (although the light has a lot to do with it as well)

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Hehe. I kinda like it. I'll try to get some more from that night scanned tomorrow. Only about 1/4 of 2 rolls (1 normal) turned out decent. It was really low light. Other than a little (and I do mean little) brightness/contrast adjustments, that's pretty much straight out of the camera.Dave wrote: lol.. Sick as in i don't have any idea. It's just liek whoa. The green cast makes me think it was Fuji
BTW, if you want some really cool stuff to cross, try Kodak E100VS. I had some stuff that may or may have not been expired and it came out almost normal, but with some really intense color and an odd yellow cast (although the light has a lot to do with it as well)
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The film is Kodak Ektachrome 200 daylight


I'll post it once I get finish it off.
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Might of posted these before.



































