I'm left wondering...with the increasing pit bull bans

[LawL]

Everyone knows, the REAL threat is poodles. The French bred poodles to be killers so that they wouldn't have to surrender anymore. They did such a great job, they ended up surrendering the dogs to all the other countries. Turns out, that was a great plan. Now, we all have to live in fear of the dwarf mutations that are terrorizing old people communities all over the U.S of A.

DAMN YOU FRANCE!

Shut up.

[LawL]

Pits are more likely to grab hold and not give up until your a bloody fucking heap of dead shit.

you're

[E:v:O]

DAY ONE: KID WITH PIT BULL


DAY TWO: KID GETS BITTEN, GOES TO HOSPITAL, WRONG SURGERY ROOM, HAS SEX CHANGE


DAY THREE: DOG GETS SHOT, HOMEY PISSED

[Nightshade]

I can't believe you of all people tried to compare guns to dogs. Besides, where did I say they should be banned?

Do you even read what I post or do you just scan over it and deliberately misunderstand it to suit your point? I already said that I believe all dogs are capable of biting or killing. Pits are more likely to grab hold and not give up until your a bloody fucking heap of dead shit. And what is it that pit owners say when their dog does attack someone? 'He was the sweetest dog ever until this happened.'

I think chihuahuas are more aggressive than pits, just at their size no one takes them seriously. I've been around dogs all my life and out of all of them pits were the majority that were aggressive towards me. Never been attacked by one, just confronted. I have been bitten by other types of dogs. One bite and that was the end of it. You seem to be getting a bit aggressive, how's your owner treating you?

You're not making any sense, and you're undermining your previous posts. Common sense smack you in the face, Randy? And you didn't answer my other question: How many "aggressive" pitbulls you've known were owned by retards?
And how can you not see the obvious comparison between dogs and guns? If you're not responsible with either of them, someone can get hurt or killed. And you're making some pretty broad generalizations about pits here (which is the entire problem) saying that they're more likely to grab on and not let go. I've Lhasas do that, does that mean they're all vicious?
My point is this: If a dog, any dog, is properly trained and socialized, unless they come from a line (not a breed) that's been bred for aggressive tendencies, they're VERY unlikely to go Cujo on someone.
Another question: Of the pit(s) that 'confronted' you, what was(were) the circumstances? If you've been around lots of dogs, you know that there are times when that protective instinct kicks in. Shit, if you had tried to get near my wife in a menacing fashion, my Rottie would have torn your arm off, but that was his JOB. But he was never aggressive towards people or other dogs. I saw a smaller dog jump and bite him on the muzzle one day, he just looked at the little shit. Why? Because I trained him and socialized him.

[Peenyuh]

Gee guys, I could be wrong but I think Peenyuh's talking about negroes.

And rednecks.

Shut up.

no

[Scourge]

You're not making any sense, and you're undermining your previous posts. Common sense smack you in the face, Randy? And you didn't answer my other question: How many "aggressive" pitbulls you've known were owned by retards?
And how can you not see the obvious comparison between dogs and guns? If you're not responsible with either of them, someone can get hurt or killed. And you're making some pretty broad generalizations about pits here (which is the entire problem) saying that they're more likely to grab on and not let go. I've Lhasas do that, does that mean they're all vicious?
My point is this: If a dog, any dog, is properly trained and socialized, unless they come from a line (not a breed) that's been bred for aggressive tendencies, they're VERY unlikely to go Cujo on someone.
Another question: Of the pit(s) that 'confronted' you, what was(were) the circumstances? If you've been around lots of dogs, you know that there are times when that protective instinct kicks in. Shit, if you had tried to get near my wife in a menacing fashion, my Rottie would have torn your arm off, but that was his JOB. But he was never aggressive towards people or other dogs. I saw a smaller dog jump and bite him on the muzzle one day, he just looked at the little shit. Why? Because I trained him and socialized him.

I don't see how I'm undermining my previous posts. You're taking a few of my statements and making them into absolutes. An example here:

And you're making some pretty broad generalizations about pits here (which is the entire problem) saying that they're more likely to grab on and not let go. I've Lhasas do that, does that mean they're all vicious?

No. Guess you missed this part

The difference being that they usually just bite once and move on. Note that I said usually.

Another question: Of the pit(s) that 'confronted' you, what was(were) the circumstances? If you've been around lots of dogs, you know that there are times when that protective instinct kicks in.

Yes, I know that. Most times I was just walking down a road. Sometimes in my own yard. As for the retard/non-retard percentage, I didn't count but some were genuinely good people,

f a dog, any dog, is properly trained and socialized, unless they come from a line (not a breed) that's been bred for aggressive tendencies, they're VERY unlikely to go Cujo on someone.

And which breed do you think has the much higher percentage of lines trained for aggression making it far more likely to obtain one by accident? This is a large part of what I'm getting at. I did make an error saying that they are aggressive by nature in my first post. But you've also misinterpreted some of statements.

[Nightshade]

Now you're just contradicting yourself and making more generalizations.

[Scourge]

Where am I contradicting myself?

[Hollowtips]

This reeks of the typical "We dont like it, so lets get rid of it." response that people have perfected over many thousands of years. All this has ever done is result in genocides, extinctions, and long lasting, unthought of consequences.

That sentiment aside, pit bulls have long been bred as fighting dogs for many generations because of their perceived toughness and aggression. Because of their bloodlines, they do have the capability to be more dangerous. They have also been a long favorite choice of drug dealers for the same reasons. The rise in the popularity of rap and gangstas has also led to the rise in popularity of this particular breed of dog. This mixed in with the fact many are too busy or simply dont care enough to properly train their new pet can and does lead to unfortunate events.

As far as the gun vs dog argument goes, I cant believe it would even be brought up. A gun is a tool. An inanimate object incapable of acting on its own. Until you can leave a gun at home and come back to find it shot up the house or neighborhood, dont even compare the two.

Animals, no matter how domesticated they may seem to be, will still always have a primal wild streak. Does this mean we ban and destroy any animal capable of killing a human being? If we did this, there wouldnt be much left. Furthermore, there wouldnt be any of us left either.

My solution for this type of thing would be to enact laws similar to the ones that ban felons from owning guns, and have similar penalties. Sure, it wouldnt accomplish all that much in the long run because criminals dont care about laws, but it might save a persons life or spare them a horrible mauling in some cases.

[MKJ]

shut it

[Captain]

MKJ show some respect, his relatives fought in an imaginary war at some point

[xer0s]

I can't figure out if EtUL is a real idiot or if he just plays one on the internet...

[Captain]

Polymornan Institute of Honushi; Class of 2008.

[+JuggerNaut+]

lol

[MKJ]

MKJ show some respect, his relatives fought in an imaginary war at some point

war on drugs, im sure.

[Ryoki]

For the people who think dog behaviour is all down to the boss and the doggies upbringing, i relate a wonderful anecdote:

Friend of mine once got a puppy from a dubious half criminal uncle. As it grew up, the beast grew absurdly huge and stong and especially vicious. It also started displaying a questionable problem... it hated negroes. Whenever he'd walk his hellhound and a black person would approach, the dog just lost it and went into attack mode. The beast was so huge, it was neccesary to quickly wind the rope around a lamppost or something, there was no holding the beast otherwise. Worth to note that the guy i'm speaking of is physically quite impressive himself, and that he lived in a neighbourhood full of black people. Which didn't help. Of course it all went wrong one day, the dog escaped, attacked someone, mauled a leg, caused general carnage and destruction and was eventually put down by a policeman.

Turns out this particular kind of dog was once bred as a plantation guard dog and the species was both absolutely illegal and nearly impossible to obtain. My friend almost got into a great amount of trouble for even having the thing, but in the end his story of ignorance was believed... The cops even felt sorry for having shot his dog and they gave him a retired police dog, which was cool

[Ryoki]

I guess what i’m trying to say is that I feel the Nature vs Nurture discussion does not apply to dogs like it applies to humans. All dogs breeds were bred for a purpose… some for speed, some as guards, some as trackers, some to look pretty and some to be incredibly annoying little shits only a rich dumb slut could love.

I'm sure the way you bring them up goes a very long way, but personally, I’d never consider getting a pittbull if I had kids. I don’t trust them.

[Nightshade]

Well, if you have a brain in your head, you don't trust your kids around ANY dog. Pits are great dogs, but because they're very strong, you must train and socialize them properly because the potential damage they can do is significant. The same can be said for Dalmatians (a breed that bites lots of kids), Labs, St. Bernards, any large breed.

[Ryoki]

Yeah, probably.
Incidentally... i got my cat - the sweetest cat in the world to people, but built like a bulldozer - from a pond. The people at the pond were kind of glad to get rid of her since she was alledgedly terrorising the other cats, and the story they told me was that the previous owners didn't trust it around their new baby. Thought that was taking it a bit far, myself.

The silly thing does nothing but sleep and purr, so i figure she just hates other cats.

[CaseDogg]

they should be banned and the remainder that are alive should be put down. i hate those fuckin things.

[MKJ]

i feel the same way about fags

[Ryoki]

[Nightshade]

I did make an error saying that they are aggressive by nature in my first post. But you've also misinterpreted some of statements.

Ok, that's fair. I mis-read your statement about 'biting and moving on', which is why I said you were contradicting yourself. From personal experience, I've met pits that had stupid owners and some that had decent owners. The one glaring example that sticks out in my mind is this asshole that was my neighbor's roommate, and he got a pit that was bred to fight. The dog was great with people from what I saw, but very dog-aggressive. I think that after a certain number of generations of a particular line that are bred for aggressive tendencies, yes, the dogs will tend to be nasty and have to be put down. Maybe Cesar Milan can rehab them, but most people couldn't. But, that's not the dog's fault, it's the breeder/owner's. I hate seeing dogs that I know are capable of being wonderful companions ruined by retarded assholes.

[Peenyuh]

Cesar Milan = A1 guy

All dog owners should listen to him.

[Underpants?]

edit: @ MooKowJchubbychaser