Can't Boot

[Peenyuh]

I know the second img is blurry, but if you can make out what is says.... Here's what happened. I got ahold of a comp with a good mobo - P6DBE (?) - with a vid card and a whole buncha other cards, and put my two hds in it. I've got a feeling that some settings are wrong in the "setup". Can't someone tell me anything about this to help me boot up? I know you probably need more info, so plz tell me what to look for. Thank you.

This is where it stops booting:

[Captain]

Get into the BIOS and check to make sure the drives are being detected and the one with the OS installed on it has boot priority.

[Peenyuh]

If the drives aren't being detected, how do I make that happen?

[Peenyuh]

Detecting drives now, but I get stopped at that screen looking for a boot record no matter what I do. Also, the setup ctr pnl isn't like I've seen before...not that I've seen alot of em. Anyway, I've even tried booting from my cd. It says blah blah any key to boot from cd, I hit space bar and nothing. stuck on that screen.

[Underpants?]

hard to tell really with what you're describing Peen. More info would be helpful:
-is the hardware apples to apples with your old? Looks like the system may have a scsi controller, which may need to be set to boot first or last, depending on which type of disk you have.
-also looks like for whatever reason the maxtor drive is set to d2, which may be no big deal or it might mean that the disk needs to be jumpered correctly or the cable position changed

Try switching the boot order of the two drives, if that makes sense.

[AmIdYfReAk]

first thing is first, Swap the IDE cables Your CD-rom is being detected as the Primary Master. ( being a little clearer then Underpants )

Also one would assume by your statement that you've just tossed two hard drives into this computer and expected it to boot off of your old windows install, right?

Edit: here is some info on that mobo:
Edo + SD FTW!
http://www.supermicro.com/products/moth ... /P6DBE.cfm

[Peenyuh]

The scsi card wants to be hooked into something or it gives a not installed warning. So, I took the card out and connected the two drives and the cd-rom directly to the board in the standard fashion. It boots to the same screen (as below) again, only this time it says "searching for boot record from IDE-0. The setup doesn't mention there is a "0" at all. It begins at 1. My two hds work in tandem on my other pos, so they have to in whatever computer I put them in.
This comp I'm trying to boot up has no name or identifying mars on it, but it has what looks like two processor ports (only one has a processor in it), four ram ports several pci ports and two different kinds of ports as well.
When I tried to boot from my xp disk, it setup to install, but stopped at the repair,install,quit screen and would not go any further. So, it can read these drives - it mentions all three in the setup - I don't know shit about this sort of thing, so if you would tell me specifically what info you need and how a moron like me ( ) might find it, I'm there.
btw, the boot order is correct as far as I can make it in the ambios ctr pnl. As I said, it starts at 1. HD with os is set first, hd2 is second, and cd-rom third.

[Peenyuh]

first thing is first, Swap the IDE cables Your CD-rom is being detected as the Primary Master. ( being a little clearer then Underpants )

Did, but going to dbl chk now.

Also one would assume by your statement that you've just tossed two hard drives into this computer and expected it to boot off of your old windows install, right?

er...yeah...

Edit: here is some info on that mobo:
Edo + SD FTW!
http://www.supermicro.com/products/moth ... /P6DBE.cfm

I'm on it. thx

[axbaby]

first thing is first, Swap the IDE cables Your CD-rom is being detected as the Primary Master. ( being a little clearer then Underpants )

Also one would assume by your statement that you've just tossed two hard drives into this computer and expected it to boot off of your old windows install, right?

Edit: here is some info on that mobo:
Edo + SD FTW!
http://www.supermicro.com/products/moth ... /P6DBE.cfm

i agree with my buddy ... sounds like IDe cables are mixed up .. or could be a master/slave switch problem.

disconnect all drives except the windows installed drive then boot .

pass that hurdle and the rest should be easy to diagnose which IDE cable goes where and why.

edit: while your at it eliminate others things that may possibly be causing a conflict such as
try with just one stick of ram , no network card , no sound card etc
just boot with the most minimal of hardware required to simply boot.

also in bios .. disable "Halt on all errors"

[AmIdYfReAk]

Do you have a SCSI/IDE/SATA Expantion Card in there?

as in you plug the Cd-rom and etc into that?

Could you take a picture of the case with the side off and post that?

it may give us a hint at what you're trying to do.

Btw, for anyone that wants to look into this junk, here is the manual on this Mobo:
http://www.supermicro.com/manuals/mothe ... L-0612.pdf

[Peenyuh]

I have Primary HD>Slave HD>Mobo slot "IDE-1"
CD-ROM>Mobo slot "IDE-2" (small red/blk/wht wire harness is hooked to what looks like a sound card?)
SCSI card removed but was in the bottom pci slot.





I get: Searching for Boot Record from IDE-0

It stops there.

[Peenyuh]

Oh yeah. I read that entire manual and used the settings it suggested. I just want to boot this thing so I can use the programs I have on those two disks. A lot of the stuff on there won't work on the pos that the drives came from...no graphics etc.

[AmIdYfReAk]

So you are trying to boot off of your 40 gig right?

not the ~70 gig....

correct?

[AmIdYfReAk]

Also, i was trying to figure out why you where going to use this computer... But am i right saying that its a Dual P3 700Mhz?

[Peenyuh]

Yes, the 40.

Yes, it's a dual socket, but there's only one P3 in it. The other socket appears to have never been used.

[zolborg]

At this point when you turn your computer on does it take awhile to do things or is it almost instant.

As when you go into bios. Does it go there right away or is there a long pause.

A long pause would indicate failing hard drive, cdrom drive, etc.

If so, unplug all cables to all devices and start computer pressing Del, F1, F2, or whatever that bios dictates.

Then plug one drive in at a time and do the same thing with bios. It should be the same speed.

Also ensure you have checked the jumpers on the drives. Unless they are sata.

If cable select, use the last or end plug on the ide cable.

Remember you cannot have 2 drives on the same cable with the same jumper setting.

[AmIdYfReAk]

ahhh, Well,

what i would do to TRY And get it to boot, Go through the manual And find where to change the boot sequence to CD-rom then HDD-0

Put in the XP CD and Follow this guide on how to do a repair install:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/usin ... oug92.mspx

[Peenyuh]

@AmIdYfReAk: Doing that now. I'll let you know how that goes.

@zolborg: Reaction time is instant. Drives are healthy...I know that much for a fact. Jumpers are set properly...I double checked the istructions and my work. Was fairly proud of myself on that too.
And, no offense intended, but...whutsuh zolborg?

[zolborg]

Pray you never need to find out.

[Peenyuh]

Damn! Still getting the "searching...boot record....IDE-0..ok" thing. It just stops there. I feel like Jim Carey when he found out that nobody really likes him.

@zolborg: Saynomorewinkwink

[AmIdYfReAk]

So you managed to boot off of the CD-rom, ran through the repair install, and you are still getting the IDE-0 boot record?

if yes: Try disconnecting the 70GIG for the time being, then try again with the Repair install ( the MBR may be on the 70 gig rather then the 40gig )

if you HAVE NOT Ran through the repair install, MAke the only bootble device the CD-ROM ( so if you have 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th bot device options in the bios, set them all to CD-rom )

[axbaby]

move IDE Primary slave drive to secondary IDE cable.

boot drive will be alone on the Primary IDE
on the Secondaty IDE you will have Master CD and a Slave Hardrive .

then set boot priority in bios to boot with the drive with the Os.

the drive with the OS should be the one that is alone on the Primary IDE.

if no boot then switch the Hard disk around.

if it boots and you want to keep the programs that are installed then
Xp should be able to install the motherboard driver etc on it's own
with no real harm. you may after need to run a registry cleaner to help clean up the mess
created because you didn't Format and start over fresh.

XP is very forgiving , not like previous OS's

[Peenyuh]

processing....

[Peenyuh]

I carefully followed each of your instructions and still get the same thing. I don't know what else to do. I guess I could just bite the bullet and go buy a P4 and throw these drives into it. Saw one for $300 at Best Buy. Aw shit. Now I'm just rambling. Thank you guys, very sincerily, for your help. Take care and all my best.

[axbaby]

you gave up too easily .. there are other things you could have tried.
on Xp CD repair there is a program called fixboot and a few more other things you could try to repair the Xp installation on the drive.
did you try with just 1 hard drive and no other drives ?

it may have had scuzzi to overcome the same error your having

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