Well hell may be freezing over (workout)

[tnf]

because i might be trying a workout from an infomercial here soon.

my wife bought power 90x from a friend at work (had got it for her husband, but he didn't want to do it and just got himself a treadmill to walk on while watching tv instead - American anyone?) because she wanted something she could do at home with minimal equipment that was more than just running in place and pilates (she tried the original 90 program 4 years ago or so but found it way too limited and boring). I don't know if you've seen the commercials, but this isn't one of the gimmicky deals you normally see where they promise nutty results from hardly any work. These actually are ball-busting workouts and a pretty impressive variety of them based on what I've looked at so far.

They are far removed from traditional mass building weightlifting workouts, although weights are a big part of it.

http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitnes ... P90XDOTCOM

There isn't a chance in hell I'd pay all they want for it ($120 plus shipping - wife paid $50), but if you look through there the workouts don't look too bad. We could have come up with something comparable to all those on our own, but she didn't want to go through the hassle learning that many workouts and she actually likes having something to follow along with on the TV.

If I try it I'll let you know how it works in case there are any of you out there looking for a decent home workout requiring basic equipment.
I haven't done plyometrics since high school and college sports days, so I am hoping I don't rip a hamstring off the bone or something.

Most likely I won't be doing it because I feel like a lazy fuck lately, but if I do, look for me on an infomercial in the future.

[Dark Metal]

They're making infomercials for Viagra now?

[tnf]

no, cialis.

[Dark Metal]

You a daily dose man, or do you roll with the "36 hour sexathon"?

[tnf]

I crush em up and snort them, mixing dailies and extended releases for a week long marathon.

[Dark Metal]

Your wife doesn't mind your spending a week with your boyfriend?

[tnf]

Does yours?

[Dark Metal]

Wouldn't you?

[Mojo Jojo]

Need to have the long view as far as workouts go IMO. Maintenance. 20-30 min free weights twice a week and making sure you burn 500-600 calories a day in the activity of your choice (walking works). +EATWELL and you will always be strong.

[tnf]

When I was training clients here in town I had to give them a bit more specific information than that , but you are right on the making sure you eat well and set reasonable calorie burning goals.

[Mojo Jojo]

What most poeple don't get is that if you listen your body will tell you what it needs. Nutritionally and physically. Not only that but how much the combo effects your mental and emotional health.

[tnf]

To a degree, but if a person is looking to bring up a weak spot in their back or improve their inner quads you need a bit more specific intervention. To the average shmuck who just wants to be in better shape overall, he/she can pretty much figure that dropping the fast food, eating more natural foods, drinking more water, and getting off their ass in one way or another for at least 30 or so minutes a day is going to be good for them.

[Mojo Jojo]

No doubt. We all need help/guidance from time to time.

[feedback]

This is the program that promises you'll always be sore, right? It's shtick was you change the exercises all the time, the problem with that is if you change exercises you don't make any progress. Being sore has no bearing on how good of a workout you had.

[tnf]

"All the time" is a bit of a misnomer from what I gather in the description - you stick with a series of core workouts but mix up other things here or there. I haven't looked at the workout calendars, etc. (we don't have them yet) but I haven't heard a real selling point on the commercial being soreness nor would I ever equate soreness with whether or not a workout was good or bad. You aren't changing exercises so rapidly that you make no progress, but I see your point.

[[xeno]Julios]

a friend told me he was gonna be doing the p90x stuff and i was naturally skeptical, but after doing a bit of cursory research, it actually looks pretty damn good. I think you need to be quite fit to do it properly.

I prefer to cross train naturally by doing a bunch of different of regular physical activities, but for many others this may be an excellent program.

[tnf]

that part about being fit is true - you aren't going to be blowing through these workouts if you aren't in some shape already...but this isn't a workout for the person who wants to put a bunch of mass on their frame.

[Peenyuh]

I hope three quarters of yer classes get straight A's and you have a heart attack.

[ek]

sounds good, make a log

[tnf]

i'll post nude before and afters.

[tnf]

I'm actually anxious to start something different - I just don't have the motivation to go back to a gym since I can't lift like I used to so I'm hoping that this will get me into some kind of decent shape anyhow.

[[xeno]Julios]

i'm actually about to start changing up my routine. For years I've been doing 4-6 reps to failure, getting pretty strong but risking injury (specially on the weighted dips and chins).

So gonna start choosing a weight where I go 8-10 reps to failure, and then do a strength session every 3 weeks or so. Scared shitless of injuries at this age.

[tnf]

You've gone for years without changing your rep scheme once? And why are you so scared of injuries, are you throwing around weights that are forcing you to lose form?

[[xeno]Julios]

i experimented with HST for a while but that required too many calories. Yea I've kinda stuck with what worked and have been happy with the strength and mass gains and it's hella convenient for my schedule (twice a week in gym for 45 min each session).

I just hurt my shoulder doing either dips or chins and it scared the hell outta me - without my shoulder my ability to lift with my upper body is severely compromised. My form is pretty good, but I get the feeling that one bad rep with the weights i'm doing can have long lasting consequences. And i'm not even confident that my body can handle the weights even with good form. I know from rock climbing that beginners tend to injure their finger tendons because their muscular strength is stronger than their tendon strength. But finger tendon strength can be gradually conditioned. I wonder if it's possible to injure tendons and ligaments in the shoulder in a similar fashion. I go very deep with my dips - perhaps I should adjust my range.

Though it is possible I injured myself doing a set of just bodyweight dips during cooldown - hard to tell exactly when and what caused it since i didn't feel it at the time.

I like the idea of experimenting with a different scheme, while still doing the heavy weights once every few weeks. Will be interesting to see how my body responds to the increased time-under-tension.

[feedback]

You probably hurt a muscle in your rotator cuff from doing dips too deep. Spend time on RC exercises.