Goal optimizing causal agents with some measure of general adaptive intelligence densely populated within each others' respective spheres' of influence could be expected to:
1) cooperatively construct coercive institutions to set interaction parameters
2) anarchically optimize subject to interaction effects, due to failure/rejection/ignorance of (1)
3) disaggregate
Conditions/assumptions:
Causation is assumed.
Cooperation is permitted.
Computational capacity is taken as finite, scarce.
Agents' recognizable resource neighborhoods are scarce.
Actions produce diminishing effects over time.
Change in system entropy over time is strictly non-negative.
Time is macro-scale unidirectional (cause precedes action).
Information is scarce, costly.
Agent time is scarce, costly.
Goals arise endogenously.
Agents arise endogenously.
Agents are capable of reproduction.
Agents face existential risks.
Agents face internal process degradation.
The system is not known to be well-defined.
Causal agents
Re: Causal agents
Go on.
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Re: Causal agents
Slightly redundant in parts, but it'll do.
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Re: Causal agents
Speculative. Granted.
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Re: Causal agents
Take the position of an internal endogenous observer and many of those statements may be inferred empirically. Limited pattern heuristics can be constructed thusly, as imperfect tools for agent navigation and manipulation of one's environment (at least locally).
Axiomatic formalities are set aside here, discounted in regress, or otherwise ignored.
Give it a go, db.
Axiomatic formalities are set aside here, discounted in regress, or otherwise ignored.
Give it a go, db.
Re: Causal agents
Survival 101
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Re: Causal agents
I had an interesting conversation the other day. Some very intelligent colleagues of mine held to acausal free will beliefs and somewhat less remarkably, a deontologic ethic. Well read, introspected in areas such as these; and different.
Their politics are conservative, but developed, other potential metaphysical investments left unprobed.
Anyway, I'm left wondering about the general palatability and/or permissiveness of consequentialist/utilitarian/physicalist belief frameworks in circles of the intelligent, educated and rigorously analytical.
We can speak of utility maximization (in economics) and colloquial goal pursuits elsewhere, but limiting implications for agency ought not be disregarded. A cognition that values operational durability as a prerequisite to goal development and pursuit may well optimize it's internal process and local environment to minimize existential risk (subject to interaction effects where applicable), to an end of indefinite operation.
Succinctly put, a life well lived for an individual as described, would be a life sought indefinite in service of goals sought realized.
I'm glad we had this chat, m8s.
Their politics are conservative, but developed, other potential metaphysical investments left unprobed.
Anyway, I'm left wondering about the general palatability and/or permissiveness of consequentialist/utilitarian/physicalist belief frameworks in circles of the intelligent, educated and rigorously analytical.
We can speak of utility maximization (in economics) and colloquial goal pursuits elsewhere, but limiting implications for agency ought not be disregarded. A cognition that values operational durability as a prerequisite to goal development and pursuit may well optimize it's internal process and local environment to minimize existential risk (subject to interaction effects where applicable), to an end of indefinite operation.
Succinctly put, a life well lived for an individual as described, would be a life sought indefinite in service of goals sought realized.
I'm glad we had this chat, m8s.