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Here ya go....from WIRED magazine:

Britain To Put CCTV Cameras Inside Private Homes
UPDATE: Further research shows that the Express didn’t quite have all its facts straight. This scheme is active, and the numbers are fairly accurate (if estimated), but the mentions of actual cameras in people’s homes are exaggerated. The truth is that the scheme can take the most troublesome families out of their homes and move them, temporarily, to a neutral, government-run compound. Here they will be under 24-hour supervision. CCTV cameras are not specifically mentioned, not are they denied, but 24-hour “supervision” certainly doesn’t rule this out from the camera-loving Brits.
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Oh wait...am I obsessed abo0t the UK now?
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military kidnap protester at g20...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8CNa_vi ... r_embedded
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for those who don't follow the uk's thrilling political stories - labour recently replaced a vicious but incompetent nonentity with a thoroughly horrible old cuntrag. looks like johnson's working his way through smith's 'to do' list :(
The UK's chief drugs adviser has been sacked by Home Secretary Alan Johnson, after criticising government policies.

Professor David Nutt, head of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, criticised the decision to reclassify cannabis to Class B from C.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8334774.stm

this is in the same week as a call to cut off internet service to persistent filesharers, while music and video distributors continue to refuse to understand how capitalism is supposed to work.
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^
"I cannot have public confusion between scientific advice and policy and have therefore lost confidence in your ability to advise me as chair of the ACMD.

"I would therefore ask you to step down from the Council with immediate effect."
translation: "i hired you to tell everyone our policy on drugs has a 100% basis in fact even if it hasn't."

lol, who's advising who here?
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A government IT project for tracking offenders in England and Wales through the criminal justice system was a "shambles", MPs have said.

Officials in charge of the scheme - abandoned after costs trebled - lacked even a "minimum level of competence", the public accounts committee found.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8339084.stm
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just thought all yall should know
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lol polize staat
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Identity cards will be scrapped under plans announced by the new Conservative and Lib Dem coalition government, new Home Secretary Theresa May has said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/ ... 678233.stm :cool:
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hey look, it's 4days :cool:

god i hope the con-dem'ed coalition follow thru with abolishing this nazi bullshit
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lol, british police are desperate: http://www.manifestoclub.com/node/581

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Some real bullshit going on in Toronto last week during the G20 and G8 summits here.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/toronto ... -arrestees
The Canadian Civil Liberties Association says it is considering a joint lawsuit against the Toronto police and other police forces responsible for the G20 mass arrests.

“The CCLA is planning to help people who are seeking compensation to (initiate) a lawsuit in the Superior Court of Ontario,” said Nathalie Des Rosiers, general counsel for the CCLA. “We have a couple of plaintiffs.”

More than 1,000 arrests were made relating to the G20 summit and multiple reports have emerged alleging peaceful demonstrators or even bystanders were caught up in the mass arrests — most notably, at the Esplanade’s Novotel Hotel on Saturday, where demonstrators tried to stage a sit-in, or at Queen St. and Spadina Ave., where a large crowd was boxed in and detained for several hours in the rain.

All arrests this weekend were made under the criminal code and not the Public Works Protection Act, according to the province.

Des Rosiers said the CCLA has been overwhelmed with phone calls and has already collected 75 complaints from people claiming they were wrongfully imprisoned, detained, harassed or assaulted by the police.

Among them is Adam Suska, a 32-year-old supply teacher. After watching a Queen’s Park demonstration on Sunday, Suska was walking towards Bloor St. and Spadina Ave. when police officers stopped him and asked about his black t-shirt.

Following Saturday’s trail of destruction caused by protesters using Black Bloc tactics, there were multiple reports of summit police targeting people dressed in black.

Suska claims police called him a “piece of s---” and asked for identification, which he didn’t have. He was arrested for breaching the peace and taken to the Eastern Ave. temporary jail, where he was released without charge after eight hours.

Suska said the experience has shaken his faith in police and he now has trouble sleeping. He said he would definitely be open to a joint lawsuit or class-action suit.

“I felt just disgraced and so ashamed,” Suska said. “I shouldn’t have to feel like that just for walking down the street.”

Police Chief Bill Blair has tried to justify police officers’ actions during the summit, saying Black Bloc members infiltrated peaceful demonstrations or that protesters failed to disperse when asked.

Blair has announced an internal police review, but there are growing demands for a public inquiry, with the Public Service Alliance of Canada, Greenpeace and 121 signatories from the York University faculty recently joining the chorus of voices asking for an independent probe. The Criminal Lawyers’ Association is also calling for an independent fact-finder to probe the circumstances surrounding the G20 arrests and NDP critic Don Davies (Vancouver Kingsway) has requested the House of Commons public safety committee be recalled to study issues surrounding summit security.

The provincial government is also coming under increasing fire for its handling of a controversial regulation created under the Public Works Protection Act. Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak deflected blame from the police and said the public’s ire should be directed towards the “slippery and cowardly” Premier Dalton McGuinty for secretly making a regulatory change that police interpreted as giving them more power.

NDP Leader Andrea Horwath also blasted the Liberals for bungling the issue since the Star broke the story last Friday.

“The entire thing is a mess and it’s an absolute absurdity,” said Horwath. “There needs to be an independent review as to what happened.”

Of 1,090 people detained over the G20 period, 714 were charged with “breaching the peace” and taken into custody, according to police spokesperson Const. Tony Vella. All were eventually released unconditionally. (Some 113 were released at the scene of the arrest with no charge.)

According to section 31 of the criminal code, officers can arrest anyone found to be “committing the breach of the peace or who, on reasonable grounds, he believes is about to join in or renew the breach of peace.”

But according to criminal lawyer Paul Calarco, there is “no legitimate basis” for many of this weekend’s arrests.

“Wearing a black t-shirt is not any basis for saying reasonable grounds (for arrest),” he argued. As for arresting peaceful demonstrators en masse, “that is not a proper use of Section 31. That is an intimidation tactic,” he said.

“Standing on the sidewalk and exercising your constitutional rights is not a breach of the peace.”

A further 263 of those arrested were charged with criminal offences — some because they had pocket knives or similar common items in their backpacks — and were sent for bail hearings.

Some people who were arrested will probably argue their Charter rights were violated, said Jonathan Dawe, criminal lawyer with Sack Goldblatt Mitchell. He pointed to reports of people being denied their right to legal counsel or to not be arbitrarily arrested or detained.

“I can’t imagine how (police) could not have known that what they were doing is unlawful,” Dawe said. “I’m shocked at what seems to have been a wholesale decision on the part of the police to abandon the Charter.”
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Lots of illegal searches, arrests and the bullshit 5 metre from the fence rule.

I'm all for arresting the Black Bloq members who are vandalizing local businesses, but there is a right way and a wrong way to maintain order. The police seemed to be in all the wrong places and arresting the wrong people.
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looks like the rcmp have been taking lessons from london metropolitan :paranoid:
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Speaking of Black Bloc:
An eyebrow-raising photograph of one of the anarchists who set fire to a Toronto police car during anti-G20 protests this past weekend shows him wearing Nike clothing, a potential indication that provocateurs dressed up as black-bloc “anarchists” were again employed by authorities to cause mayhem in order to justify a brutal police crackdown and crush free speech, as peaceful protesters were attacked and arrested while the anarchists who torched the cars were left alone.
Peaceful Protesters Attacked, Arrested While Cop-Car Arsonists Left Alone
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More on this:
Despite the G20 police admitting to misleading the public, no external investigations have been announced by any level of government. Allegations of deliberate police inaction pose a number of importants questions. If the police allowed the black bloc to destroy property, what was their rationale and who made the call? If, as critics suggest, the "Miami Model" was employed by the G20 forces, did they do so to create a pretext for broader police action intended to discourage future protest? Given the lack of criticism of the detainments by the two largest federal political parties, an external, independent investigation is needed to assure Canadians that this style of policing won't become the norm.
http://www.straight.com/article-332054/ ... loc-action
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it's over...

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0707/nsa-cr ... structure/
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Rules on stop and search changed

Stricter tests for stop and search powers have been announced by the home secretary after being ruled unlawful by the European Court of Human Rights.

Home Secretary Theresa May said the government would not appeal. Police will now not be allowed to use the powers unless they "reasonably suspect" a person of being a terrorist.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10555430.stm :cool:
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^ that was the link i was just looking for :up:

surprise surprise, the police stopped nothing but protesters and black people :rolleyes:
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A testimony of someone who was wrongfully (and illegally) arrested during the G20 summit. This is serious shit and a must read.
On Tuesday, June 29th, 2010, Toronto resident Tommy Taylor published, on his facebook page (log-in required), an extraordinary account of being arrested and caged at the G20 for 23 hours. At the time of his arrest, he and his girlfriend were watching a group of peaceful protestors, and had joined in when they sang “Give Peace a Chance.”

Below we reproduce, with permission, the post in its entirety, including the images originally used by Taylor. I find it hard to imagine a more important piece of journalism being written this year.
How I Got Arrested and Abused at the G20 in Toronto, Canada
http://backofthebook.ca/2010/07/01/how- ... anada/3476
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It's funny how the film industry/hollywood is completely ostracising Mel Gibson for some shouty tantrums but you can bet no-one will boycott the film studio used to house all those 'perps'.
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obsidian wrote:How I Got Arrested and Abused at the G20 in Toronto, Canada
http://backofthebook.ca/2010/07/01/how- ... anada/3476
:puke:

almost on topic:
The former MI5 director general Eliza Manningham-Buller today delivered a withering assessment of the case for war against Iraq, saying it had significantly increased the terrorist threat to Britian.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/2 ... -mi5-chief
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/2 ... ham-buller

granted, she didn't say anything that a taxi driver couldn't have told you back in 2002/3, but it's good to see that sort of thing being broadcast on the lunchtime news over here.
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i love the bit where she claims that no one high up in MI5 was bothered about saddam (but MI6?) back in 2002. really?
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not so much police state as total wankerville:

http://www.classicfm.co.uk/on-air/news- ... ndraisers/
Gareth Cottrell was slashed with a key and suffered a wound that needed 10 stitches while his younger brother Fraser, aged just 15, and their friend Josh Fitzpatrick were mercilessly punched and kicked.

The vicious and unprovoked attack happened as the trio prepared for a gruelling 125-mile walk along the North Wales coastline to raise £1,000 for Cancer Research UK.
perhaps we need thread with a "scum who need to be exiled to moron island where they can kill each other in peace" theme :dork:
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MORAL OUTRAGE THREAD :arrow:

but that is sick. it's manchester so i guess it's normal, and the guy was a bit of local celeb which is as good as painting a target on your head, but that's still sick.
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