Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

[Scarface]

Wait, what? Isn't that what a discussion forum is for? Wouldn't be much of a discussion if everyone had the same opinion, no?

I was merely pointing out the way everyone jumped on him when he spoke up. It's a bit one sided on here regarding this issue...

Meh, i'm tolerant when it comes to other peoples opinions. It's refreshing for me to pick peoples brains. Which i feel is far more enagaging then the "zomg an anthiest, you godless heathen ". It goes both ways, i know christians who find out you'rea non believer and never want to be, won't even look or speak to that person again, which is bullshit. Samething for athiests who flat out need to bash religion because it's something they don't believe in instead of having an open conversation. It's sad really.

[scared?]

fuck u...

[Scarface]

lol, lots of anger

[Chupacabra]

i think religion prolly originated when humans evolved to the point that they were aware that at some point in the future they were going to die...this caused extreme anxiety so the brain created a delusion (afterlife) so resolve this anxiety...

we need to evolve again to eliminate the delusion...

interesting idea. i've never heard of that before. my guess is that religion started not because of that anxiety, but because of all sorts of unexplainable things (at the time) like lightning or rain.

[Scarface]

see? all you're doing is bleating ur wrong ur wrong ur wrong, with absolutely bugger all to convince otherwise. you believe in a cushy afterlife for your 'soul' and your brain thinks your personality can live on even after it's rotted away in the ground, good for you. go read your bible and brush up on how it says you need to live your entire life to make it happen. gl

What? Didn't know I was trying to convince people on a message board who i don't know, to believe in god, through a monitor and keyboard. It's a simple discussion.

[Scarface]

Thought prevoking questions, and I'm getting the opinions from the people who answer them, without me trashing one way or the other.

The trend I notice is a lack of empathy by the people responding to my questions and automatically assume i'm only talking about christianity.

I don't know why athiests feel the need to call the religous ignorant, dillusional or stupid. I find those comments to be quite meaningless.

For myself, I am Christian, a baptist. I am a believer in God and Christ. It wasn't because of my family, it was my choice. I'm not a devout catholic, I don't agree with a congregation of people going into a church to listen to a priest speak in latin with no lesson being tought. The word of god is ment to be heard, tought and learned. The best sermons i've attended are one in which i've left with a lesson.

I'm no fence sitter. I didn't feel it to be nessesary to explain my beliefs since it would just turn into a mockery of my faith. Unfortunately tho, religous conversation always end up as such.

[Scarface]

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When people try to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them:

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev.1:9).The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7.In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness (Lev.15:19-24).The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev.25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev.11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev.11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread cotton/polyester blend. He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them (Lev.24:10-16)? Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev.20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

The crazy Leviticus laws applies only to children of isreal before the birth of christ, not Christians, fyi

[fKd]

go about your business, be good humans... this is my theory on social responsibility. god? faith? hmmm

faith... i envy you. must be nice and snug believing you are part of some divine plan.

but at the same time all i see from the religious sector of the world is violence, intolerance and general ill will toward those who are not standing under the same banner. and when help is offered, in most cases there is an ulterior motive to convert so that ya get some kinda brownie points or some shit...

but you know... its all about personal choice and all that. just dont be cunts really i guess is all im trying to say...

carry on

[FRA_ChaosLegion]

I must say I really didn't read this whole thread but a little bit of this page. My way of thinking about this is......2 THINGS YOU DON"T BRING TO THE DINNER TABLE!

[1] Politics
[2] Religion

Everyone has their on views. Nothing good ever comes out when this stuff is brought up. Not everyone's in to this sort of thing.

Michael
ShadowZombie

[Chupacabra]

I must say I really didn't read this whole thread but a little bit of this page. My way of thinking about this is......2 THINGS YOU DON"T BRING TO THE DINNER TABLE!

[1] Politics
[2] Religion

Everyone has their on views. Nothing good ever comes out when this stuff is brought up. Not everyone's in to this sort of thing.

Michael
ShadowZombie

we need something to talk about.

[Scarface]

[Eraser]

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rofl

[Ryoki]

I must say I really didn't read this whole thread but a little bit of this page. My way of thinking about this is......2 THINGS YOU DON"T BRING TO THE DINNER TABLE!

[1] Politics
[2] Religion

Everyone has their on views. Nothing good ever comes out when this stuff is brought up. Not everyone's in to this sort of thing.

Michael
ShadowZombie

Oh? I have instant disrespect for anyone who cannot have a reasonable conversation about either of those topics at the dinner table. I guess what i'm saying is fuck u...

[MKJ]

a way with words, indeed

[U4EA]

I liked this one as well:

[FRA_ChaosLegion]

Ryoki Wrote

Oh? I have instant disrespect for anyone who cannot have a reasonable conversation about either of those topics at the dinner table. I guess what i'm saying is fuck u...

Wow buddy turn your flame down a bit or you might burn your food. Firstly I have to say is no thanks on the fuck you....I'll pass. Secondly anyone who brings that kinda shit to whatever table is disrespecting all people around them who doesn't feel comfortable with discussing or debating those topics. Its like I tell the church going people I'm not interested in having them shove religion down my throat on my property. I don't believe god will banish me for not wanting to listen to their blah blah blah. No thanks. Don't preach that shit on my time.

I like healthy debates. It's good for the soul every now and then. But it seems your the kinda person who could give a fuck less on respecting people when they tell you to just shut the fuck up with your political and religious views.. We don't want no part of it. I mean this in the nicest way possible. Now if someone told you that. Would you honestly respect their wishes?

Michael
ShadowZombie

[Ryoki]

What? Didn't i just pretty clearly state that i wouldn't? People who believe things that cannot withstand the scrutiny of debate should be ridiculed.

And so should fat people, btw.

lol @ pic u4ea

[4days]

@FRA_ChaosLegion
don't get yourself wound up - everyone takes the LEM forum very seriously, but GD and the void are a lot more relaxed.

and it sounds like you could use the love of christ in your life

[EtUL]

I must say I really didn't read this whole thread but a little bit of this page. My way of thinking about this is......2 THINGS YOU DON"T BRING TO THE DINNER TABLE!

[1] Politics
[2] Religion

Everyone has their on views. Nothing good ever comes out when this stuff is brought up. Not everyone's in to this sort of thing.

Michael
ShadowZombie

We ain't eating dinner, buddy. I hate when people try to avoid talking about subjects because it can be uncomfortable. I usually find this attitude around people with poorly thought out views.

"Nothing good ever happens" because when someone changes their mind, no one remembers. When they don't and a shitfit happens. they usually had an irrational belief pointed out.

[scared?]

The crazy Leviticus laws applies only to children of isreal before the birth of christ, not Christians, fyi

lol ur a fucking moron...i'll quote again...

"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"

[Scarface]

The crazy Leviticus laws applies only to children of isreal before the birth of christ, not Christians, fyi

lol ur a fucking moron...i'll quote again...

"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"

I'm sorry, but you are incorrect, you've taken that out of context.

keep in mind Tim 2 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Regarding Leviticus laws to gentiles:

romans 6:11-14
acts 15:22-29 and 21:20-25

Also, Mathew 11:11-15, I ( Jesus ) tell you the truth: Among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it. For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. He who has ears, let him hear.

Jesus is saying that the Law is not in force forever. According to Jesus, the Law was only in force until John the Baptist. Bassically the laws were set in place by god to moses on mt. sinai until Jesus' death on the cross.

Edit: also, the comandments Jesus was talking about in Mathew 5, are not from the old testament but of the laws of Christ

[MKJ]

lol biblestudies

[scared?]

fundamentalists christian disagrre with u scarface...

also...

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

3b) "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

3c) "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

4) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)

5) Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)

6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole. The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in Hell. (Matthew 5:27)

7) Peter says that all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.” This is merely an echo of the same slavery commands in the Old Testament. 1 Peter 2:18

8) “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).

9) “...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35

[FRA_ChaosLegion]

@ EtUL

Your right buddy. Were not at the dinner table. My views on certain subjects are just fine. I suppose that some topics do bother me and that's normal. We are human. Just like you. I know that you and many other people stray away from some things but in no way does it mean that people have....

I usually find this attitude around people with poorly thought out views.

poorly thought out views. Well I guess everyone including you have poorly thought out views. No one is perfect. I admit there are things that bother me and I do not like to talk about. Religion is a very touchy subject for alot of people.

Michael
ShadowZombie

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

you're a lot

you're a lot upset