moving bsp to centre on origin - also riddla

Post by **seremtan** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:13 am

Is there any way of moving a map to centre on the origin in the BSP? Reason I ask is I have a map riddla wants to use in Loki's Revenge but it's not centred (needs to be for that mod) and I've lost the .map file. And I'm not happy with my remake attempts.

I know there must be a decompiler out there somewhere but if it's anything like vmex it'll give me something useless for recompiling.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Hopes? Dreams? Pictures of grown men hugging other grown men wearing dresses?

Post by **seremtan** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:53 pm

It was a general question for everyone, and a (non-) progress report for you.

Post by **Fjoggs** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:01 pm

I'm most surely failing hard understanding your problem, therefore I'm going to make a complete bollocks suggestion.

Press "I" and drag that baby? xD

Post by **obsidian** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:07 pm

How about Q3Map2? ydnar added a decompile feature that's a big improvement from the old bspc bsp2map function, though not without some limitations (some items found in the map file are stripped from the bsp and can't ever be retrieved).

2.5.6 (2003-08-15)

- New: can convert BSP files to MAP files via -convert -format map. Note: not
perfect by any means, as certain pieces of data are irretrievably lost, such
as func_group entities (including terrain specifics), brush face texturing
info, and light/misc_model entities with Q3Map2-generated BSPs

Post by **seremtan** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:47 pm

OK, but how does it reconstruct caulk faces? Vmex (.bsp

.vmf decompiler for Source) simply creates a 1-unit high pyramid of nodraw behind every textured face (it's for learning purposes, really). Does q3map2 do the same thing? I can live without texture info etc. but brushes I can work with are kinda essential.

Post by **seremtan** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:49 pm

Fjoggs wrote:I'm most surely failing hard understanding your problem, therefore I'm going to make a complete bollocks suggestion.

Press "I" and drag that baby? xD

Hey, if there's a BSP viewer that lets you do this then save it, I'm all ears.

Post by **bork[e]** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:52 pm

Fjoggs wrote:I'm most surely failing hard understanding your problem, therefore I'm going to make a complete bollocks suggestion.

Press "I" and drag that baby? xD

All he has to work with is the .bsp, but that's all I'm really getting. :lol:

Post by **pjw** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:29 pm

seremtan wrote:OK, but how does it reconstruct caulk faces? Vmex (.bsp .vmf decompiler for Source) simply creates a 1-unit high pyramid of nodraw behind every textured face (it's for learning purposes, really). Does q3map2 do the same thing? I can live without texture info etc. but brushes I can work with are kinda essential.

I've never actually used it, but I got the impression that it did a pretty decent job.

It's worth a try?

Post by **Fjoggs** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:41 pm

Yeah, q3map2 -convert saved my ass three times, when fjo3tourney1 got boned several times. It does a great job, altough you gotta clean up alot of textures etc

Post by **obsidian** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:44 pm

Yup, architecture wise, pretty much everything gets recreated as you made them, including patches. Just try it and see... you won't be disappointed.

Post by **seremtan** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:58 pm

bork[e] wrote:
Fjoggs wrote:I'm most surely failing hard understanding your problem, therefore I'm going to make a complete bollocks suggestion.

Press "I" and drag that baby? xD
All he has to work with is the .bsp, but that's all I'm really getting. :lol:

OK, from the top. For a reason I forget now (ask riddla) all maps for Loki's Revenge CTF need to be centred on the map's origin. The particular map of mine he was after is a little bit off the origin so something or other doesn't work. I could fix it in a jiffy with the .map file, but I lost that, so all I have it the .bsp.

I'll give q3map2 a try. Thx Obsidian.