Wow...the Australian ETQW scene sucks balls

[Luckless]

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Its fairly noticeable that to those of us who play comp what is valued is smg skill and the ability to kill other players. Doing an objective effectively requires clearing it - then its just a simple matter of as pants put it 'pressing f'.
So it is a fact that if you play on Aus servers among some of the comp players and you dont do things which we tend to value (ie shoot well and not rely on spam) you might cop some flack.
As you can likely guess there is a contradiction here, its a pub server, vanila is not promod. Hence some of us who play comp do of occasion get a bit of rage going, I wouldnt take it too seriously. Text is hardly a perfect medium of communication, some of what you percieve to be a horrific insult may only be meant in jest.

4. The kick votes are really just us having fun, yes it can be annoying and when it really gets out of hand we disable voting. Although its a public server its their mainly to cater to those of us who have been around the longest. We wanted a place to play where we could remove pingers and afk players and enjoy ourselves. Hence 'my' (not rosies) comment to you which you seem to have either misread or simply forgotten "we pay for the privilidge of playing with YOU" ie we pay for the server, you are essentially there as our guest. The server does not belong to some company, its paid for by the admins. As such I am sorry to say it but sometimes things will take place which you might not like - we have to balance up a lot of different issues.

[Luckless]

5. There is really not much need to carry this on, if you have an issue you are welcome to raise it with us. Feel free to add me to friends list and just send me an IM. If you want to vent to your friends then that is your choice but clearly although this might be a clan forum it is open and people have found it.
People took up issue for the exact reason you likely thought they wouldnt - you didnt name names and instead tried to make a general critisim. In doing so you have perhaps inadvertantly painted everyone with the same brush.

Although you are welcome to not like some of what goes on fact remains that this will cut both ways, if you imply that everyone is terrible then you have to expect that people will respond with what they think of your own abilities. If you complain that some people dont take the game seriously then you also have to expect some people to question why you do take it so seriously if you wont play comp.

The sad part is that Rosie and Goto are both 'really' nice people who do their best to make the server a good place, if you had just let them know you were having problems you would have found that out. Instead this whole episode has ended up plasted all over our community forums (which a lot of the Aus community do read) and what should have been private has become very public.
Luckless

[Captain]

[Doombrain]

what the fuck is this?

[GONNAFISTYA]

what the fuck is this?

It's about pantyhose or flower print dresses so you'll fit right in.

[GONNAFISTYA]

Thanks for the insights, Luckless.

Just to clarify what this site is: it's a leftover remnant of a 10 year old set of forums back from the Quake3Arena days. The official site was killed (or scheduled to be killed) long ago and we sort of took it over and kept it going...er...well DooMer and Turbanator kept it going. We actually went through a site shutdown a few years back and resurrected it. The membership over the years has dwindled and most members basically stick to their specific forum of interest (GD, Level Design, etc)

With regards to this specific forum (ETQW), it's just the few of us who play the game who post here and have kept this forum going...and the traffic hasn't been high here in well over a year. The [Q3W] clan wasn't really a clan, but a bunch of members who posted here and happened to play the game. We've never actually played any official matches as a clan (fuck you obsidian) and most of us rarely play together...if at all. Check the dates on the threads to see how little traffic actually comes here.

So - in truth - this isn't a ETQW clan forum, but with the massively reduced traffic pretty much acts like one.

And to give you some history on the overall Q3W site....most of the people (myself included) who used to post here regularly (back in the heydays) in the Level Editing/Game Programming forums have actually gone on to work in the industry. Several of the old members (who got their start here) worked at Splash Damage and created ETQW. Hell...my old roommate from 10 years ago was one of the Leads on ETQW. And no...I haven't mentioned this shitstorm to them as it isn't really important and have no intention to.

I'm preemptively telling you all this in case anyone checks out the rest of the site and finds out it's not a clan forum.

So...in a nutshell, this is a fairly private site, the ETQW devs don't visit this site anymore (let alone post in this particular forum) and probably aren't aware in the slightest about this thread as they've moved on years ago. These days they also don't hang around the official ETQW forums as much as they used to as they're busy with Splash Damage's new project. So if you were worried about "bad PR for the Aussie community" you can relax..at least as it pertains to me and this thread. I hope this is nearing an end. The reason I didn't reg and post at the GameArena forum was because I didn't want to keep this mess going.

Your comment about postings on the internet biting you in the ass is true and it appears the GameArena forums get much more traffic than this one. So take that as simply a hint as to who is contributing to bad PR when you look at the intent of this thread versus the one on GameArena.

Good luck and have fun.

I basically stay here or GD to flame Doombrain and Mazda as well as bashing the United States to piss off yanks.

[obsidian]

Just some further details on that...

Technically, we're still the official community site of Quake 3 Arena with some oversight from id Software (they reacquired the domain from IGN during the latest migration) and they own the site as an IP. The link inside the Quake 3 game still points to us. There are people who work at id Software who used to visit us (not so much anymore), and people who were first members here are now hired and working at id. Most of the members here are remnants of this 10-year-old game and over the years we've become set in our ways and have come to know one another rather well. We talk about pretty much everything here but less and less about Quake 3.

We are not a clan per se, but we are all old-school gamers, most of us playing FPS games since the original Wolfenstein and some of us even remember playing Pong. We may not be the best ETQW players in the world, but I'm confident that even the worst of us can hold our own on the public servers. We don't have enough active ETQW players to hold an official match. Aye, quite a number of our members work at Splash Damage, Digibob, LloydM to name a couple. ydnar worked on Wolf:ET. They joined Splash Damage when SD wasn't yet a company, but just a mod team working on (IIRC) Quake 3 Fortress. Other members here work at Raven, and a number of other studios. Some of us sit on our asses all day and are too scared to apply for that game dev job even though we think we can be quite qualified.

(Oh, and fuck you too, GFY)

[GONNAFISTYA]

Some of us sit on our asses all day and are too scared to apply for that game dev job even though we think we can be quite qualified.

The offer for you to send me your shit and see what I can do still stands, mofo.

[obsidian]

I know, I'm scared (but actually not willing to relocate at this time).

[Dark Metal]

Wow, Aussies really are a bunch of fucking morons.

[Doombrain]

strong tears

[Don Carlos]

Jesus...

[Grenader]

anal fissure

[Mortogon]

strong tears

That's not an aussie he's coming from Australa, don'cha see?

[lars63]

As usual I missed all the drama *sigh*

[GONNAFISTYA]

lol

You're like 3 months too late old man.

[lars63]

lol

You're like 3 months too late old man.

Story of my life *lol*.

[Scarface]

holy fuck, am i ever glad i found this goldmine!

[Ryoki]

i should check this part of the forum more often, strong lols