UBB hits Canada

[Scourge]

bigger problem: what happens when IPv4 runs out of addresses?

Don't worry, you'll still be able to get to your midget porn. They're just going to need to work out any bugs and compatibility issues with IPv6. A lot of places are already compatible with it.

[Plan B]

Tele2, maxes out at about 2.5 MB/s.

Not much of a difference, then.
Maybe time to jump over.

[LawL]

Don't worry, you'll still be able to get to your midget porn. They're just going to need to work out any bugs and compatibility issues with IPv6. A lot of places are already compatible with it.

[seremtan]

bigger problem: what happens when IPv4 runs out of addresses?

Don't worry, you'll still be able to get to your midget porn. They're just going to need to work out any bugs and compatibility issues with IPv6. A lot of places are already compatible with it.

wow, i make a post with a legitimate point in it, and you get all mad

some things never change

[dubz]

http://wiki.daviddarts.com/PirateBox

[SoM]

CRTC internet decision faces review

[obsidian]

It starts with a bunch of lies but watch for the lulz at 5:04 where George Burger rips Kevin O'Leary a new one. O'Leary is a perfect example of what's wrong with broadband in Canada, he's entirely about maximizing profits and milking the consumer for all they are worth while not actually understanding the costs and technology of the business.



The problem of a "review" of the CRTC decision is that they aren't going to revoke the changes, they'll just amend it at a halfway point (say, 40GB cap but still $2/GB overage). That still means we lose. The Conservative government has a vested interest in seeing that the telecoms get their way (see my link above about the Conservative's hand in influencing the CRTC). The large telecoms are more than happy to keep chipping away at broadband, they've done it before with the throttling debate, they're doing it with UBB and they'll continue doing it with whatever crooked scheme they can think of next.

[Tsakali]

lol that O'Leary guy sure is gloves off. Are freakishly transparent intentions the norm in Canadian media culture or is this guy special?

[bitWISE]

That stockholder guy really exemplifies the problem (with this and so much more).

[Captain]

lol that O'Leary guy sure is gloves off. Are freakishly transparent intentions the norm in Canadian media culture or is this guy special?

Nope, conservative idiocy is business as usual in Canada.

[MKJ]

bigger problem: what happens when IPv4 runs out of addresses?

already happened. keep up.

[^misantropia^]

Nerd nitpick: all blocks have been allocated but not all addresses have been assigned yet. That's expected to happen somewhere in June or July.

And welcome back to the 21st century, Canada!

[Captain]

It's not over yet, as obsidian said it's very unlikely the conservative government will entirely revoke the UBB. If anything, they'll force the CRTC to alter the cap slightly, then proclaim themselves to be on the people's side as if they've done everything they could. Even if the UBB is vanquished for now, there's a high chance it'll become an issue again down the road. This is the best moment for the people in Canada to demand drastic changes to the duopoly that Bell and Rogers have set up. The rallies will go on as planned.

Speaking of which, any of you other Torontonians planning on going? Yonge & Dundas, 9am tomorrow. Be there or suck Bell's dick.

[Therac-25]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le1892522/

So the Cons ride in on their white horses to save everyone.

I'm still moving off of Bell's lines as soon as possible.

So the question now is if they'll let Bell have it's way after the election.

[obsidian]

Teksavvy has better prices, service and has been very vocal about issues like net neutrality, throttling and UBB. Their CEO personally attends these rallys. So if you're looking for a new ISP, they have my recommendation.


Mazda, this rally couldn't have been planned for a worst time. Fridays are the nosebleed seats of rallys. Everyone is at work, media coverage is the worst as the news dissipates over the weekend. It should have been planned for the weekend or early in the week. As a result, the media will report that "not many people showed up, therefore people don't care". Who organized this thing, Bell?

[Therac-25]

Teksavvy has better prices, service and has been very vocal about issues like net neutrality, throttling and UBB. Their CEO personally attends these rallys. So if you're looking for a new ISP, they have my recommendation.

I'm on Teksavvy right now. But it's still going over Bell's lines, which is why their UBB bullshit can have an effect. I want to find a way off of Bell or Rogers owned wires, so even when this gets resurrected post-election, I don't need to care.

[obsidian]

OIC... It's not an option for 99% of Canadians though. If you find an alternative, let me know. You can help me with my SSD trading network.

[Captain]

Mazda, this rally couldn't have been planned for a worst time. Fridays are the nosebleed seats of rallys. Everyone is at work, media coverage is the worst as the news dissipates over the weekend. It should have been planned for the weekend or early in the week. As a result, the media will report that "not many people showed up, therefore people don't care". Who organized this thing, Bell?

Actually I had a hand in organizing it, but most of the credit goes to my friend and classmate. Jack Layton will be coming to interview him personally, so I do believe the media coverage will be good. I'm missing classes for this, but it's a worthy cause to make a small sacrifice for. If you can't make it tomorrow, there are bigger weekend rallies planned for February. Check out Stop The Meter on Facebook.

[SoM]

don't pass the cap then

[seremtan]

bigger problem: what happens when IPv4 runs out of addresses?

already happened. keep up.

happened today. i posted that yesterday

tit

[SoM]

just checked my email and saw this

Alek --

It’s another step towards an open and competitive internet in Canada, and it's thanks to you.

Late last night, news broke that Tony Clement will ask the Canadian Radio and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) to reverse their decision on usage-based internet billing – a decision that allows internet service providers to impose download limits and new fees.

Our work is not yet done. We need to keep up the pressure until the CRTC’s decision is reversed once and for all.

Canadian families and businesses need open, affordable, unlimited internet access. The future of our economy depends on it. The Conservative government should have known that from the start.

When messages like yours reached us this past weekend – on Twitter and Facebook, by email, phone and fax – my Liberal colleagues and I knew what we had to do.

On Tuesday morning, we sided with you against the CRTC’s decision. By the end of the day, Liberal MPs on the Industry Committee had already begun an investigation. Then, yesterday, we kept the pressure on the Conservative government during Question Period in the House of Commons. At tonight’s meeting of the Industry Committee, Liberal MPs will tell CRTC Chair Konrad von Finckenstein to reverse course.

This isn't the first time that you’ve stared down the Conservatives over an open internet — and that's why tens of thousands of you visited our action page at http://www.liberal.ca/ubb/, to join our digital policy email list and help carry the fight into Parliament.

This is your movement. You rallied on Twitter. You wrote emails and called Tony Clement’s office. You made the difference.

We all know that there are wider issues at stake here. After five years of Stephen Harper, Canada still has no digital plan. The Conservatives’ proposed copyright bill contains unfair digital lock provisions. Canadians are less connected and face higher internet costs than citizens of other OECD countries. And don’t even get me started on the long-form census.

Liberals have been engaged on these issues. In 2009, we worked with the Openmedia.ca / Save Our Net Coalition on Net Neutrality, a position that we support wholeheartedly. Last fall, we announced our Open Government Initiative, which will make government data accessible to all Canadians.

At the heart of our digital policy is a core Liberal value: we must make Canada more competitive and more innovative. That means expanding high-speed internet access to every region of the country, fair and equitable wholesale access, and transparent pricing.

We must build a digital strategy for Canada that embraces the energy, entrepreneurial spirit, and innovative creativity of consumers, businesses and digital influencers like you.

We'll keep the pressure on the Conservatives in Parliament to make sure they follow through and reverse the CRTC’s decision on usage-based billing. This victory is just a taste of what we can accomplish, if we continue this fight together.

I hope you’ll join the Liberal Party's digital policy email list at http://www.liberal.ca/ubb/. Let’s build a more open, more competitive future for Canada.

Thank you for being engaged.

Michael Ignatieff

all i did was sign the petition @ openmedia

FU libs

[Captain]

Liberals are jumping on the 'people first' bandwagon for brownie points. NDP has opposed internet throttling and capping for years.

[prince1000]

bigger problem: what happens when IPv4 runs out of addresses?

http://www.bgpexpert.com/addressespercountry.php

[Therac-25]

Liberals have been engaged on these issues.

[Captain]