Quake 3 Master Server?

[Quake3DC]

Greetings Fraggers!

Signed up here today. Wanted to pop in and let everyone that the dreamcast quake 3 community is having the same problem getting any response from the master server (yes, we are still playing this game online with our dreamcasts ).

Any retired dreamcast Fraggers here at the quake3world forums?

[demon514]

It's a real shame that id would shit on their customers like this and I cannot accept that they are not aware of the problem. It is their responsibility to watch over and maintain the master server ESPECIALLY if they are still selling copies of Quake 3 Arena!! At the very LEAST they can announce SOMETHING with regards to what's happening. Their silence sends a clear message about Quake 3 players, and that message is "fuck them." We are obviously too insignificant to be given any kind of news on the status of the Quake 3 master server, and at this point, even if they do bring it back online.. over the last 8 days of dead-time, too many Quake 3 players have already been lost and have moved on to something else. I'm one of them. I bought Doom 3 for my uncle a couple of years ago and I am now playing his copy (the single-player story). I'm a huge fan of the first and second DooM games and I'm really enjoying this one a lot! This is my kind of game and I really love the engine! The graphics and lighting are outstanding, even by today's standards! It's very id, and I very like it. ...... but.. I'm contemplating buying a copy for myself (along with the Doom 3 expansion). I am torn between my values and my desire to play a game I really like... and another question comes to mind: Will they someday create a newer, (and needless to say, butchered), corperate and capitalist friendly version of Doom 3 and call it "Doom Live" (with pretty little golden bubbles instead of blood) and shut down the Doom 3 master server without saying a damn thing ? Seriously though! Don't say "probably not", because when we first heard rumours that they were working on a web-based version of Quake 3 called, "Quake Zero", we all laughed at the idea! Little did we know then, that the great majority of Quake 3 players would eventually ditch Quake 3 for it.

[dkvogon]

I agree with demon514. To be absurd that there is not even a single note about the master server. I know that many people have put time, effort and money to have their own online servers, like me. And what about the designers and programmers who made maps, skins, characters and mods? And the thousands of websites, forums and clans that helped keep the game alive until the present day? They are simply disposable? That's a real disregard for the people. It's not just the end of Quake3. For thousands of people, is the end of a relationship of trust. And now, with 5 servers rented with my own money, I am obliged to seek an alternative. And certainly not anything that is related to the quake, id or any of its partners.

[Eraser]

Jesus Christ, get your panties out of a knot you guys. id Software has been supporting this game for quite some time. They've released two generations of games in the mean time, so do you think it's strange Q3 isn't their priority anymore? They owe you nothing. Besides, you don't know what's wrong. Maybe they've been working around the clock for the past days to get it fixed, you just don't know.

[Eraser]

I bought Doom 3

Yeah, something must be done to send a message to id Software that they should stop screwing their customers. Let's all collectively buy other id Software games to tell them!

Little did we know then, that the great majority of Quake 3 players would eventually ditch Quake 3 for it.

And rightly so. Quake Live is like Quake 3 on steroids. It's awesome. The new features really breathe new life into the game. Your dislike of Quake Live is based on some kind of odd grudge it seems. And do tell, how old are you? Why the rather disturbing fascination with blood?

[dkvogon]

In my pov, Eraser are wrong. No company grows without its consumers. And ID has grown not only by the quality of their games, but also with the support of the community. It owes its rise to its customers.
If they are working on a solution, why not a little note about it?
Stop buying ID games or not means absolutely nothing. The product may be good, but not the attitude of the company, especially in this case.
QuakeLive on steroids is just your opinion. For me it's just another option. And players from Countries like Venezuela, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Chile, Argentina has over 150 in QL.
And the right to choose where to play? Why be tied to a single supplier? And if ID resolve to end the QL? Nor will say anything to your users?

This is my last post here. It makes no sense to be discussing this issue with those who will not solve the problem.
I am grateful for having had the opportunity to put my pont of view on this forum.

Good luck to all.

[Quake3DC]

Can someone state clearly the problem here? Just the master server is down? Gametracker is saying that people are playing quake 3 right now as I type this. Dozens of active games.

I Play quake 3 online with my dreamcast and my only concern is that there are no 1.16n servers with the dreamcast mappack online. I hope this game continues to thrive online, as it has for about 13 years now.. People still play doom online. Unless quake 3 somehow becomes completely offline, I don't see its community ceasing anytime soon.

[madmad]

Problem is the master server being down. Sure you can still play, theres plenty of servers around. However, if you`re like me(playing for old times sake) you would be a bit disappointed. What I like about q3 is the speed of the game itself - click click click - youre in action. These days I simply dont have time or will to be f*cking about with third party game browsers and such. Plus, I know iD dont owe me anything, but myself and others supported this company for many years buying their games and getting other people to buy their games - I think one lousy mention somewhere to explain whats going on isnt that much to ask of them now, is it?

[demon514]

Eraser, really? .. REALLY?! First of all, the next time you quote somebody, try to avoid quoting only the first 3 words of their sentence otherwise you are quoting somebody out of context. Is that why you call yourself Eraser? For someone with 34,000 posts, you should know better. Secondly, I find it funny that after pulling off such a childish move, you have the nerve to ask ME how old I am. YOU'RE the one trying to start a flame war here! Grow the fuck up! I could have fun with you, but it's not why I came here. I came here to express my frustrations towards id and find answers about the master server. Unfortunately the latter didn't work out, but I do feel much better about the former.

I've said all I've wanted to say.

Thanks again for your help, obsidian. I'll let you guys know if I hear anything back from SyncError. pure., I wish you luck in finding a worthy replacement to Quake 3. madmad, let us know if you hear anything back from ZeniMax. Quake3DC, good luck with your dreamcast thingy. I played many awesome games on that console. It was ahead of its time. dkvogon, you are a smart man. Thanks for your support and.. I feel your pain brother..... .. I spent ... SO much time developing a modded pure server (and client), and it only lived for a whole 2 and a half months after its launch.. It was struggling, but fairing well enough to play a few 3v3s almost every night.. until the master server went down. Now it has no players. I completed my first q3 map ever about two weeks ago (which only took me about 200 hours or so) and I never got to try it with more than 2 players. I hope your servers continue to thrive when/IF the master server ever comes back online. The people of south america need a server! I should know, because about half of my server's players were Spanish speaking south americans.

On a positive note.. I learned A LOT about programming and map making... and a little bit of Spanish! haha. Cya guys

[CaptainHowdy]

For me it's not that quake live is inferior, it's just that I don't want to watch an ad every time I try to connect to a server nor do I want to pay a monthly fee to skip ads. At the very least, if Quake 3 arena is down forever, id should provide Quake 3 users with a premium quake live account. Nonetheless it would make my week if the master server goes back up.

[Eraser]

For me it's not that quake live is inferior, it's just that I don't want to watch an ad every time I try to connect to a server nor do I want to pay a monthly fee to skip ads. At the very least, if Quake 3 arena is down forever, id should provide Quake 3 users with a premium quake live account. Nonetheless it would make my week if the master server goes back up.

Quake Live only has static banners so they're not that much of a deal. Besides, in return you can play the game for free. Then there's also adblock

[Zero6823]

Hey guys, there is an alternative master server that I created with a friend. Also I made a modified quake 3 1.32 client for windows so people can the servers that are reporting to the master server. Or if you're using the latest version of ioquake3 then open up the console and type in:

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\sv_master1 master.maverickservers.com

Please check it out. It's been up for more than 2 years now and quite a few servers are using it.

If anyone would like to add their Quake 3 server to this master server, then add this to your server config:

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set sv_master2 "master.maverickservers.com"

http://q3renegade.com/files/quake3-1.32b.exe

[dkvogon]

I am using maverickservers in the last ten days. I am also working on other solutions:

1. My own q3live. With the code already written, tested and partially working, missing to make some adjustments. Unfortunately, at present only for linux.

2. Quake3 client with a static list containing all active servers in the world, in case you do not have access to any master server. I think this solution would be the most viable and fast for all server admins.

If any friends are interested, can contact me through my email: dkvogon@gmail.com

[madmad]

No reply from Zeni, servers down, its not looking good...

[dansh]

Hi All.
Compiled binary files of client and server with support for the master server master.maverickservers.com.
Archive already contains *.pk3 files. Only need to unzip and copy the folder your pak0.pk3 baseq3 and run the client or server.

Mediafire Client & server Linux i386-x86_64
Mediafire Client & server Windows x86

RGhost Client & server Linux i386-x86_64
RGhost Client & server Windows x86

The code from SVN-Trunk - TEST ONLY!

[Zero6823]

What's in the binaries that you complied? Does it just query the maverick master server only?

[dansh]

sv_master1 "master.maverickservers.com" - replaced instead master.quake3arena.com

and more:
sv_master2 "master.ioquake3.org" - added by developers in ioquke3 SVN2217
http://svn.icculus.org/quake3/trunk/cod ... threv=2217

[Zero6823]

I see. I tried it out. Your windows binary works better than the one I posted. Thanks for supporting maverickservers.

[Eraser]

Umm, setting which master server(s) to use is an entry in q3config isn't it? A simple autoexec.cfg would do the same thing, no need to create or install a custom binary for this.

[Zero6823]

I had tried that, but unfortunately it didn't work (Especially doesn't work with original 1.32 client). Having a custom binary is just a more easy solution than messing with configs and whatnot.

[Eraser]

I see. Does Punkbuster accept a custom executable if you're connecting to a PB enabled server that doesn't run this executable as well?

[MKJ]

you could also opt to reroute the dns via your hostsfile.

jus in case PB kills your exe

[Zero6823]

Probably doesn't work for PB. Most active Q3 servers don't use PB anymore anyway.

[Zero6823]

dansh, there is a problem with the binary you compiled.

When I try to connect to certain servers I get an error that says "GAMEMISMATCH: THIS IS A QUAKEARENA-1 SERVER". So supposedly that means it's incompatible with certain servers. This doesn't happen with the binary I made though.

[dansh]

Incompatibility Server - Client. ioquake3-improved engine quake3.
I think it is a feature of the engine from SVN-trunk (developer) code ioquake3.
I think if compile from SVN-branches or SVN-tags (older code), then everything will work.