And another one

[YourGrandpa]

Say's the tiny homo with man boobs.

[LawL]

You're so fat your face hangs down over your shirt.

[Captain]

Say's the tiny homo with man boobs.

Yes you.

[seremtan]

lol Obama, says school shooting is a travesty while his drones are bombing evil terrorist kids in brownlandistan.

this

AND HE INTERRUPTED THE FOOTBALL THE FUCKING NIGGER

[LawL]

2nd in command of 3 chins

[Ryoki]

2nd in command of 3 chins

[Don Carlos]

OK I am going to try and writing something with a bit of thought for a change (the caveat being it is unlikely to make much sense, but try and hear me out)

The issues that America has when it comes to gun control is that the right to bear arms is a founding pillar of the country.
The second amendment states “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
When something like this is so engrained into a country then getting laws changed are difficult as the people of the country will fiercely defend, and rightly so. I have realised that despite what the outside world think, it is the right of the American people to have guns, so we (we being the rest of the world) need to stop getting on our own high horse about it. But here is rub; while I agree that the rights of the people should be defended, the constitution was adopted in 1787 and went into effect in 1789. Duelling pistols were the weapons of choice in those days, so you had something like this:



These were slow, inaccurate, cumbersome weapons. The constitution was never designed to deal with the deadly assault rifles of the modern era. It needs to be adapted to fit modern times and the advances in gun technology.

In the UK road didn’t have speed limits for 35 years, but as cars became more powerful and people were killing themselves and others by going too quickly, laws were introduced to ensure that the recklessness that was becoming more apparent was curbed. Cars were not banned, they were just controlled. And that is all America needs to do to start a shift in the way guns are handled and thought about in the country.

People who are expecting big sweeping steps in the banning of weapons are living in a dream world. You can’t rip the heart of a countries basic freedoms as you would have mutiny. But what you can do is take small incremental steps in adapting the laws laid down all those years ago to fit in with a modern world.

[bitWISE]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/1 ... 17522.html

[Don Carlos]

"Another assault weapons ban [would] really limit our sales," he said. "People like the assault weapons. People say they are useless, but so are dragsters. Why do people want to drive a dragster down a drag strip?"

Why herp when you could derp?

[Don Carlos]

"Most people feel that if teachers had the ability to protect themselves, there would have been less casualties," Liss told HuffPost in a phone call on Monday.

But then why derp when you could MURRRRR?

[feedback]

"Most people feel that if teachers had the ability to protect themselves, there would have been less casualties," Liss told HuffPost in a phone call on Monday.

But then why derp when you could MURRRRR?

lol wp

[EtUL]

lol at the far right's hate of teachers, public schools and unions but the insistence that they should have weapons.

[seremtan]

The issues that America has when it comes to gun control is that the right to bear arms is a founding pillar of the country.
The second amendment states “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
When something like this is so engrained into a country then getting laws changed are difficult as the people of the country will fiercely defend, and rightly so. I have realised that despite what the outside world think, it is the right of the American people to have guns, so we (we being the rest of the world) need to stop getting on our own high horse about it. But here is rub; while I agree that the rights of the people should be defended, the constitution was adopted in 1787 and went into effect in 1789. Duelling pistols were the weapons of choice in those days... These were slow, inaccurate, cumbersome weapons. The constitution was never designed to deal with the deadly assault rifles of the modern era. It needs to be adapted to fit modern times and the advances in gun technology.

or perhaps that was never the point of the second amendment in the first place?

http://www.spiked-online.com/site/article/13183/

Some of the misinformation following the Sandy Hook shootings took issue with the Second Amendment of the US Constitution, which guarantees American citizens the right to bear arms. Thus British chat-show-host-cum-constitutional-expert Piers Morgan lectured Americans on its meaning: ‘The Second Amendment was devised with muskets in mind, not high-powered handguns and assault rifles. Fact.’

Except it’s not a fact, Piers. The Second Amendment is about freedom and equality, not specific guns. Historically, a connection can be traced between the ascent of the Enlightenment man - born in liberty, equality and brotherhood - and the freedom of every man to possess arms. Citizenship has been linked to the right to possess arms, most infamously in the Dred Scott case of 1857, where escaped slave Dred Scott petitioned for his freedom after travelling to a free state in the United States before the Civil War. Denying Scott’s claim on the basis that blacks could never be citizens, he defended his position by saying that citizenship entailed ‘the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs; and to keep and carry arms wherever they went’.

Piers would do better to read the Federalist Papers, where founding father James Madison noted that ‘Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms’.

[Doombrain]

Funny how pictures get painted.

I practice strict gun safety and security. I've educated my family on the proper use of firearms. I've never used my firearms to kill anything, nor do I plan to. I'm all for more required education for perspective gun owners. I would also be in favor of required testing/licensing to own any type of fire arm. But somehow people still label me a "gun nut". LOL!!!

America is different than where you live. We have a different culture and respect for firearms. Never mind it's one of our constitutional rights. And before you criticize, consider how far and fast America has come. No, we're not perfect. However, we are still learning. But it's going to be a long time/never that you will disarm American citizens. That being said, it should be easy to understand that "banning" firearms isn't a reasonable solution. Mandatory education and licensing is the only conceivable path to a reasonable outcome. Though true "gun nuts" would call me a commie for saying that.

lol

[scared?]

Anyone who owns a gun for protection is nothing but a coward pussy...

Sorry gramps dumbo..

[Doombrain]

I like this part "consider how far and fast America has come". From living in wooden houses to bullied little kids with no respect for life and access to modern weapons.

[losCHUNK]

and they also really like Jesus

Without money they'd be one of those countries they've tried invading

[EtUL]

Has anyone suggested banning guns except for the gun owners?

[YourGrandpa]

Yeah, that only being a country for 230+ years and surpassing every other country to become the most powerful, wealthy and respected on the planet is quite funny.

[Doombrain]

you mean china?

[losCHUNK]

Yeah, that only being a country for 230+ years and surpassing every other country to become the most powerful, wealthy and respected on the planet is quite funny.

Aye, in terms of development it's liek a spoilt 2 year old

[xer0s]

Yeah, that only being a country for 230+ years and surpassing every other country to become the most powerful, wealthy and respected on the planet is quite funny.

lol, wut?

That may have been the case at one time, but honestly, not anymore...

[YourGrandpa]

you mean china?

Yeah, we've kinda screwed the pooch around here for the last 30 or so years. But we were on a roll for a good 200 years.

[losCHUNK]

Yeah, that only being a country for 230+ years and surpassing every other country to become the most powerful, wealthy and respected on the planet is quite funny.

lol, wut?

That may have been the case at one time, but honestly, not anymore...

Between all the countries being effected by WWII to the time those countries managed to recover ?

[YourGrandpa]

No need to be bitter.