Quake3 and GeForce4 MX440

Post by **kdub22** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:57 pm

I am trying to run Quake on a computer that is using the above metioned graphics card. When i start the game the graphics are all messed up. They are blocking like some kind puzzle and the colors are all screwed up.

I've went to nVIDIA and d/l the latest drivers for GeForce, but still the same problem.

I was wondering if there was some chipset adjustment to make or maybe something in the console, that's the blue screen that come up as the game boots right? The console comes and goes so fast i can't read what it says, and i don't know how to access it. If i need to.

The game runs fine on an older GeForce card.

Hope someone can help me. I am a newb, but not completely green.

thanks

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:59 pm

could you post a screen shot of this error?

Post by **kdub22** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:03 pm

sorry i guess i am green.

screen shot? how do i do that?

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:12 pm

Drop down the console, ( By pressing ~ ), and enter in the command cg_usescreenshotJPEG 1
Close console,
press F11 to take a screenshot
quit Quake,
go to your quake folder and find the Screenshots Directory
grab the picture.
upload it to : http://www.imageshack.us/

then post it here

Post by **kdub22** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:23 pm

i started the game then pressed ~ then f11, but the screenshots folder was empty.

i've tried severel times but still nothing

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:31 pm

Follow the instructions....

Post by **obsidian** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:43 pm

It's possible that your video card is overheating. Check to make sure that the fan on the card is still working.

I have the same card in an older system and the fan died on me. I replaced it with a new Vantec Iceberq HSF.

Post by **kdub22** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:44 pm

ok i think i got the screenshot, but it is tagged as a TGA file.

is that right?

Post by **obsidian** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:46 pm

Also, try typing /bind F11 "screenshotjpeg" in the console, then pressing F11.

Or open the TGA file in Photoshop or whatever and then export it as JPG.

Post by **kdub22** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:51 pm

obsidian wrote:It's possible that your video card is overheating. Check to make sure that the fan on the card is still working.

I have the same card in an older system and the fan died on me. I replaced it with a new Vantec Iceberq HSF.

there is no fan on this card.

still working on the screenshot, i'll get or die trying.

i have nothing that will the the .tga file and windows does not recognize this file type'

also you should know when the console drops down i can't even read it and am not sure if i am even typing the command right.

Post by **obsidian** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:55 pm

That scares me a little, because my GeForce MX 440 came with a fan and it would still cook eggs... so unless you have a monsterous heat sink...

Post by **kdub22** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:58 pm

obsidian wrote:That scares me a little, because my GeForce MX 440 came with a fan and it would still cook eggs... so unless you have a monsterous heat sink...

my old GeFOrce2 has a fan, but my GeForce4 does not

Post by **kdub22** » Wed May 04, 2005 5:06 pm

when i took the screenshot i saw it highlight the images on the screen but there is no record of the shot.

Post by **kdub22** » Wed May 04, 2005 5:09 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:Drop down the console, ( By pressing ~ ), and enter in the command cg_usescreenshotJPEG 1
Close console,
press F11 to take a screenshot
quit Quake,

do i have to type the word command first? does the jpeg have to be caps? and the space between that and the 1?

Post by **kdub22** » Wed May 04, 2005 5:45 pm

ok, last post on this topic.

i said the hell with it. i took out the GeForce4 MX400 AGP and put back in the GeForce2 MX/MX400 PCI. Now quake is working fine.

Thanks for your help and patience with this complete idiot :icon28:

P.S. i still cant get a screenshot.

but thanks anyway

Post by **Kills On Site** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:27 pm

Open up Q3 and hit the print screen key, labled Prt Scr, right beside the Scroll Lock key. Then exit quake and open MS Paint, paste the screen shot, Ctrl+V, and then save it as a jpg file.

Also it might be your AGP slot that is messed up, can you try another AGP card?

Post by **kdub22** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:41 am

Kills On Site wrote:Open up Q3 and hit the print screen key, labled Prt Scr, right beside the Scroll Lock key. Then exit quake and open MS Paint, paste the screen shot, Ctrl+V, and then save it as a jpg file.

Also it might be your AGP slot that is messed up, can you try another AGP card?

i was able to get the screenshot the way you said. kool
i will have to put the AGP card back in to get the screenshot of the problem i was having.

the card was in another computer and had the same problem with it, so i dont think it is the AGP slot

Post by **kdub22** » Thu May 05, 2005 5:26 am

AmIdYfReAk wrote:Drop down the console, ( By pressing ~ ), and enter in the command cg_usescreenshotJPEG 1
Close console,
press F11 to take a screenshot
quit Quake,
go to your quake folder and find the Screenshots Directory
grab the picture.
upload it to : http://www.imageshack.us/

then post it here

ok here is the screenshot.

i hope this is what you wanted and can help

Post by **YourGrandpa** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:46 pm

Yikes..... That card looks fucked.

If you've updated your video card drivers, your chipset drivers, your AGP drivers and it still doesn't work. It's toast.

I had an MX440 that didn't come with fan on it, but I installed one because I O/C.

Post by **kdub22** » Thu May 05, 2005 2:39 pm

YourGrandpa wrote:Yikes..... That card looks fucked.

If you've updated your video card drivers, your chipset drivers, your AGP drivers and it still doesn't work. It's toast.

I had an MX440 that didn't come with fan on it, but I installed one because I O/C.

I downloaded the only drivers I could find for my card and OS on the nVIDIA website. As far as the chipset and AGP drivers I don't know. Do you know where I can get those other drivers?

Also this card has no problem running any other applications or games that I have except Quake. So I am still not sure why this one game won't play right.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Thu May 05, 2005 3:57 pm

we need to know what chipset you are running...

is your computer pre-built? or do you know what make/model motherbord is in it?

Post by **YourGrandpa** » Thu May 05, 2005 8:01 pm

kdub22 wrote:
YourGrandpa wrote:Yikes..... That card looks fucked.

If you've updated your video card drivers, your chipset drivers, your AGP drivers and it still doesn't work. It's toast.

I had an MX440 that didn't come with fan on it, but I installed one because I O/C.
I downloaded the only drivers I could find for my card and OS on the nVIDIA website. As far as the chipset and AGP drivers I don't know. Do you know where I can get those other drivers?

Also this card has no problem running any other applications or games that I have except Quake. So I am still not sure why this one game won't play right.

Yeah, what chipset?

Are any of the other applications or games 3D?

Post by **kdub22** » Fri May 06, 2005 5:50 am

riddla,
I deleted all nVIDIA drivers and installed 45.23 drivers, still the same problem. I don't understand how the graphics card could be fried if all my other game works and applications.

YourGrandpa,
How do I find out what chipset I'm running? I have Enter the Matrix on this computer and it's not working right either. It had been working fine. I think it is a 3D game. So i guess its either a chipset thing or this card just doesn't like 3D games. What's the difference between vidoe drivers and AGP drivers?

AmIdYfReAk,
This is a computer I built and the motherboard is a Shuttle AK32A

Post by **SOAPboy** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:18 am

obsidian wrote:That scares me a little, because my GeForce MX 440 came with a fan and it would still cook eggs... so unless you have a monsterous heat sink...

my old old geforce 2 didnt have one. and you could cook eggs on it.. AND you could burn your hand bad enough to need medical attention if you held it long enough.. yet, it ran fine..

my gfs gf4 mx420 is like that too.. dont run THAT hot, but hot enough to cook some eggs on.. no fan.. -_-

Post by **SOAPboy** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:19 am

kdub22 wrote:
AmIdYfReAk wrote:Drop down the console, ( By pressing ~ ), and enter in the command cg_usescreenshotJPEG 1
Close console,
press F11 to take a screenshot
quit Quake,
go to your quake folder and find the Screenshots Directory
grab the picture.
upload it to : http://www.imageshack.us/

then post it here
ok here is the screenshot.

i hope this is what you wanted and can help

Looks more like bad pak files to me..

-_-