for all the dev nurds

[Tsakali]

http://frontenddevreactions.tumblr.com/

[bitWISE]

Some older ones http://martinvalasek.com/blog/pictures- ... opers-life

[Pext]

urcle! ... this guy is brilliant.

[Tsakali]

my fav:
"First Time Looking At My Website in IE"

[MKJ]

Only morons check IE last.

[Captain]

Only morons use IE.

ERGO MORON-PROOFING IS FOR MORONS

[Eraser]

lol, from which movie is this?

[MKJ]

Problem is that a large percentage of the Earth is moronian. Hence reality tv.

[U4EA]

lol, from which movie is this?

It's a sketch from Monty Python's Flying Circus.

[MKJ]

And the blood goes "gushhh", in slow motion.

[Plan B]

Difficult one.
Should you cater to the wants and needs of an inferior platform, when developing.
In this case, probably yes, because after Chrome, IE still is the most used browser for some reason. Well, for the reason it's pushed onto users by MS.

So ideally MS would get their shit together and improve IE, or darwinistically IE will die a sloooooooooooooooow death as users get wise, and realise they're better off elsewhere.

[Tsakali]

my approach to this is issue is fairly straight forward... design for new browsers, but make sure ie 7 /8 can at least lay out and function correctly.... what? no border radius? no shadow? no css gradients? no proper alpha channel..no proper image scaling? too bad, they get a lesser experience, but it's functional. If they cared about how a website looked, they prolly would have figured out by now to update their browser being that 80% of the websites they visit most likely look like shit.

Basically if they don't care , why should I care.

[obsidian]

The issue with IE (and when we say IE, we mean people using IE 8 or less) is that there are a bunch of morons and/or backward tech departments that refuse to upgrade so that they can cling on to their ways circa 1999. Personally, I think if you're on IE8 or older browser, you can expect the internet to look like the output of a braille reader because you must have some kind of disability to choose to stay in the past.

BTW, this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement

[bitWISE]

The worst part isn't even the poor CSS support, its the weird JS quirks.

[scared?]

Lol another "job" thread....get a life looosers...

[Tsakali]

The issue with IE (and when we say IE, we mean people using IE 8 or less) is that there are a bunch of morons and/or backward tech departments that refuse to upgrade so that they can cling on to their ways circa 1999. Personally, I think if you're on IE8 or older browser, you can expect the internet to look like the output of a braille reader because you must have some kind of disability to choose to stay in the past.

BTW, this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement

We have a dev, that is really a designer but also calls himself a dev.... bah, he creates image backgrounds for gradients, corner radius effects etc. which completely undermines adaptability. We've started doing some 'adaptive' projects and there's where his habbits really get him in trouble. Also he never fucking optimizes images,...let alone considering the image format on any given situation...You would atleast think he would respect the image process...nope. Just knowing that there is this type of garbage coming out under the same roof, makes me wanna rage.

that progressive enhancement thing sounds like it solves the problem by nuking instead of using ground troops... prolly a lot of unnecessary casualties. Haven't read up on any good examples but that's the impression that I'm getting.

[obsidian]

Wut? Traditionally, "graceful degradation" means you create your site, then fix all the stuff that IE breaks.

Progressive enhancement means you get the basics done right first, so the very basic markup should appear correctly on all browsers. Then you add the pretty stuff, so even if some of the newer CSS stuff like rounded corners aren't rendered on shitty browsers, at least you won't have things rendering off the edge of the screen, etc.

I don't see what that has anything to do with your retard artist and tossing nukes.

[MKJ]

And for those clients that won't accept that their in house ie8 doesn't do CSS3 but still want that fancy design, there's Pie.

Fuck using images for CSS3.