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Topic Starter	Topic: Re: Anyone play Kerbal Space Program?
Tsakali opa! Joined: 02 Mar 2000 Posts: 14656	Posted: 08-26-2012 11:03 PM                  Also, that's why they had an entire control room setup back home =]
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 08-27-2012 12:10 PM                    Ok, so I finally landed on the moon for the very first time. It took 3 years of orbiting Kerbin before the ship got locked by the Mün's gravitational pull, but alright, it worked eventually. Landing went smooth, but then I realized I forgot to install a ladder on the ship, so getting Jeb out wasn't a problem, getting him back in again probably was. So I decided not to go for an EVA and head back to Kerbin, which I did... almost... 70km short of it. I was lowering my orbit around Kerbin when suddenly my last fuel tank got depleted. Sorry Jeb, I guess I wasted too much fuel getting those orbits right. Have fun doing circles around the planet for the rest of your miserable life
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Tsakali opa! Joined: 02 Mar 2000 Posts: 14656	Posted: 08-27-2012 12:37 PM                  Hey congrats! you ARE using the map to adjust the trajectories right? I honestly don't see another way you can do it, unless you had a bunch of values for every little aspect of what's going and a calculator...not to mention some pretty good maths. Also, here is my new and improved build: Spoiler alert!! (in case you don't want to see the setup This bad boy eats moon landings and returns for breakfast. It also lands and returns from Minmus, but just barely. One of the 3 times I tried it, i had about 3 pixels worth of fuel left. It does everything my previous monstrosity can do. Functionally speaking, it lands and returns from both muns but the bigger one had about two small tanks of left over fuel, which is good if you're gonna fuck around, or choose to fine tune exactly where you land since you're gonna need some more fuel to play around. It's a funny correlation between, power and weight. As you may have already figured out, it's not as simple as just adding more fuel tanks / engines. There is a fine line between the power output and weight of your build. This new one is a mean, lean, green machine. I honestly don't think you can make it any cheaper / lighter fuel efficient if you're planning on bringing 'em home. For my next build, I will try to get something to land and take off on both muns and return home, in one trip!
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Tsakali opa! Joined: 02 Mar 2000 Posts: 14656	Posted: 08-27-2012 12:51 PM                  You know, if you ever want to make up for that poor bastard stuck in orbit and you're up for a challenge, you might be able to build a heavy ship just to get it to orbit Kerbin and rendezvous with it and subtly nudge the other one to slow down, once it gets caught by the gravity, just make it your active target and go through your reentry procedure.
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Tsakali opa! Joined: 02 Mar 2000 Posts: 14656	Posted: 08-27-2012 12:59 PM                  Also, it seems that they set up the muns to be easy targets. If you look on the map, just mentally draw a right angle triangle with one point as kerbin and th eother the moon's current position. the 3rd point will be where you want to aim for. basically both moons will travel a 90 degree arc by the time your ship can reach them. so start heading that way.
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feedback Internet is serious business Joined: 18 Feb 2002 Posts: 21476	Posted: 08-27-2012 09:38 PM                  Another space-plane success story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwh57fKF ... ontext-cha _________________ I love quake!
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 08-27-2012 11:01 PM                    Oh bugger. He hasn't added it to his KSP playlist so I completely missed it.
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Tsakali opa! Joined: 02 Mar 2000 Posts: 14656	Posted: 09-22-2012 08:19 AM                  New version has come out, with loads of new planets, moons, parts, graphic improvements and features I think there's one more planet /moon system further out, just too lazy to take my own screenshot. Protip : don't be a fag and check out the new planets through the station.... make it there first and enjoy the view in person.
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 09-22-2012 08:33 AM                    Oh it's out? Great, will check it out
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-26-2013 02:51 AM                    So I got hooked by this again. The most recent update (0.18 I think) adds a whole bunch of exciting new stuff. There's new parts to build space stations, including docking ports and everything. So you can launch your rocket that carries one part of the station to orbit and then launch another payload which docks into the existing part. There's a special docking mode to allow easier docking (controls work in a more traditional way through "orbit translations"). There's also the option to set a waypoint for your rocket. A helper guide will then tell you how long and in what direction you should burn. Correctly setting up the waypoint is a bit tricky though and I'm not exactly sure how it works, but it's crucial for in-orbit rendezvous. Last but not least, you can get the game on Steam. If you already own the game you can generate a Steam unlock code on the ksp website.
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-26-2013 02:58 AM                    Oh yeah, you can also build sattelites with solar panels and scientific equipment and everything. Or build and launch your own Rovers that you can drive around another planet's surface. There's even people who build entire moon bases. You could even build an orbital space station that carries surplus fuel tanks and use that to refuel a rocket in orbit.
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MKJ Messatsu Ko Jy-ouu Joined: 24 Nov 2000 Posts: 44051	Posted: 06-26-2013 02:59 AM                    don't be a dick, jerry.
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-26-2013 03:00 AM                    What I don't even..!
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Tsakali opa! Joined: 02 Mar 2000 Posts: 14656	Posted: 06-26-2013 04:59 AM                  wow, all that sounds great. I havent touched it in months.. might download new patch and give it another go. I'm guessing having fuel in orbit is prolly crucial for setting up trips to farther destinations.
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-26-2013 11:53 AM                    This is some kind of prefab satellite I put in an orbit around Kerbin. Not sure what it does and I suspect I accidentally detached some vital part from it, but at least no Kerbals died in the process, and that counts for something!
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Transient Arrr? Joined: 09 Feb 2001 Posts: 35190	Posted: 06-26-2013 11:55 AM                    Eraser wrote: Not sure what it does and I suspect I accidentally detached some vital part from it, Sounds like a NASA project. _________________ YourGrandpa wrote: I'm satisfied with voicing my opinion and moving on.
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losCHUNK Truffle Shuffle Joined: 08 May 2002 Posts: 17167	Posted: 06-26-2013 12:25 PM                  lol fine work _________________ . : You knows you knows
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-28-2013 01:47 PM                    So I built this monstrosity: Note the three additional fuel tanks right above the solid booster rockets. I needed the additional fuel for the second-to-last stage, so I simply slapped 'em on like that. Launch started off well, until I detached my first set of boosters and this happened: Oh shit, there went my fuel tanks! In the end I built two new rockets from scratch and with the most recent one I actually got a Kerbal to land on the moon and.... well... get stuck there. And he forgot to pack lunch as well edit: judging by a thread on the KSP forums, you can build a rocket with a 3 seater command module, do an EVA with one of the Kerbals while still on the launch pad and do "end mission" on him. He'll return to base and you can launch the rocket with 2 Kerbals in it, leaving space for my stranded Kerbal to get in and return. That will be my next goal!
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losCHUNK Truffle Shuffle Joined: 08 May 2002 Posts: 17167	Posted: 06-28-2013 04:51 PM                  Excellent, I like the landing leg in the background I always go straight for sandbox :] Managed to get a Satellite in orbit after peppering most of the US East coast and Russia with debris. Woop woop ! After my initial success of nearly failing to place a tiny satellite in a shit orbit I decided to build a new rocket from the ground up, capable of returning the Kerbals safely after visiting any planet in our solar system. I called her the 'Holy Shit' - So I get my 3 best Kerbals, geared them up, put my thrusters on full and got ready say hello to the new age in space exploration Only to have a malfunction that came close to causing a new big bang and stranding them in the Suns orbit. 1 Kerbal pussy even tried running for his life out the door and ended up being a bit lonely Not to let a tragic event such as this cause an upset to my space program, we persevered with a rescue mission. Using the same set up with some re-enforcement, which was applied in much the same way that you would with cellotape on a cardboard box to give it back some of its rigility, a test mission was organised to work out some tweaks. Upon exiting the vehicle back on earth and a successful flight Bob seemed to neglect the lack of a step, tripped and fell to his death. I think. Not easy this space flight. _________________ . : You knows you knows
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-28-2013 10:06 PM                    That is one mighty rocket!
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-28-2013 10:15 PM                    Oh I found there's floodlights under the utilities section. You can mount these on your vehicle and turn them on and off, which, for some odd reason, is awesome.
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-29-2013 01:02 PM                    So I've been trying to build rockets for the command module that has room for 3 Kerbals, ejecting one of 'em before launch. None of my designs were very succesful at reaching a stable orbit let alone reach the moon. Then it dawned on me that I could make this an unmanned mission! So I slapped a remote control pod on my existing rocket design, leaving the original 1 person cms module in tact as well. Kick out the Kerbal and it's suddenly a remote controlled rocket with an empty seat. On my first try, I totally forgot about energy needs though, and only while on my transfer orbit to the Mun I realized I ran out of power and I had just slingshotted 10 tonnes of metal and fuel into space with no way to control it. Dammit. Second try I installed solar panels and a battery (just to be sure) which worked excellent. Well, except for the part where the lander crashed into the Mun's surface at 100m/sec due to errr, pilot error. Third attempt though, was a succesful landing, but guess what, my fuel has drained so far that I'm pretty sure there's no way to reach Kerbin again and I don't want to take the risk of running out of fuel while setting up a transfer orbit. So a 4th attempt is in order. I have "enhanced" my design by strapping solid fuel boosters to the sides of the rocket. Hope that works out ok!
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-29-2013 01:08 PM                    Yeah it worked out great (no it didnt )
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-29-2013 01:09 PM                    *adds more boosters* There! Success guaranteed!
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losCHUNK Truffle Shuffle Joined: 08 May 2002 Posts: 17167	Posted: 06-29-2013 02:53 PM                  lol keep going, mine got to that size from approaching every problem by adding weight. What could go wrong ?, If I was running NASA I'd be sending rocks to the moon. So after some more test flights, which cost the lives of many, many kerbals, they now have a 1 in 10 chance that they'll make it out of Kerbans orbit. So what better way to approach this achievement with a trip to the moon ! As it turns out, the entire of the 1st stage gets me placed into the moons orbit. Well I say placed, I put myself in the moons path, slowed to a stop then waited . So after dumping stage 1, 2, 3 and 4 at the same time I approached with caution. Going good so far... Great success !. Wish I didn't spend 20 mins gliding over the moons surface, trying to get rid of sideways momentum. May be needing all that fuel I left in orbit Next trip needs lights and longer landing legs, lol. Using this set up I could probaly dump sections on the moons surface and join them together, would only need to replace the capsule for cargo. Do what NASA promised but didn't and get me a moon base (if i can be arsed). _________________ . : You knows you knows
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-29-2013 09:30 PM                    lol, makes me feel like such a fool dicking around with tiny moon landers. If those fuel tanks you got left there are filled with fuel, then you've got more than enough to return to Kerbin. That takes very little thrust to do.
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losCHUNK Truffle Shuffle Joined: 08 May 2002 Posts: 17167	Posted: 06-29-2013 09:59 PM                  They would've been if I never spent 20mins dicking about, I was about 5 seconds of burn short But yea I wouldn't be too upset I bet you have more success than me. If all goes well, which it rarely does, that thing is like tryna handle an elephant in jelly, then when you get to the moon it's like threading the elephant through a needle. I'm gonna start renaming the stranded Kerbals to space debris. _________________ . : You knows you knows
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-29-2013 10:03 PM                    lol, someone made a space funeral mod: http://kerbalspaceport.com/eterno-rest-2000-coffin/
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 06-30-2013 08:06 AM                    Yessss, I landed my rescue vehicle on the moon with quite a bit of fuel left. Had to do the landing in the dark which means I had to fully trust my instruments because my eyes were pretty much worthless. Bitter thing is that i mounted a light on the original lander but took it off because I didn't want to waste electricity or have the additional weight. I feel like such a fool for that right now. Here's a screenshot I took after touchdown: Yes, it was that dark. Hope the two landing sites aren't too far apart. I got pretty close but I mistimed my descend burns and veered off course a bit...
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Tsakali opa! Joined: 02 Mar 2000 Posts: 14656	Posted: 06-30-2013 08:08 AM                  nice monolith picture
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 07-02-2013 03:07 AM                    lol, want your own 3D printed Kerbal figurine? You can order them here. At €43 ($47 USD) kind of pricey though!
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Tsakali opa! Joined: 02 Mar 2000 Posts: 14656	Posted: 07-02-2013 05:20 AM                  haha cool....cool enough for me to bite.
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 07-02-2013 05:38 AM                    Phenomenal fan made KSP trailer: Oh and guess what. The NASA folks over at JPL are loving this game: http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/arti ... t-you-can-
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 07-02-2013 05:44 AM                    Tsakali wrote: haha cool....cool enough for me to bite. Here's a picture of a real printed one: http://imgur.com/a/2BA5m#0
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Eraser Cool #9 Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 43686	Posted: 07-02-2013 09:58 AM                    WHOA. It's like KSP in real life Video: (that never happens to me) Good thing it was an unmanned rocket. http://www.space.com/21806-russian-rock ... aunch.html
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