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Lol at ppl who think there are actual democracies left in the world...

http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q ... ing-water/
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the motherfrackers...
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The people who need to read and understand this shit don't even know how to read. Who the fuck said anything about democracy? I'd call it inverted totalitarianism or some derivative of such.
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Watch GasLand on Netflix. It's a good doc that talks about fracking, among other things.
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Watch gasland 2 on hbo if ur a real man...
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f rack u...
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Watch Truth Land if you want to hear both sides of the story...

http://www.truthlandmovie.com/
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Or this thread to be reminded of your stupidity.

You never did explain your "side" either, wonder why.
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xer0s wrote:Watch Truth Land if you want to hear both sides of the story...

http://www.truthlandmovie.com/
Lol oil and gas propaganda...
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Or just read the research if you aren't an idiot:

Horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing are transforming energy production, but their potential environmental effects remain controversial. We analyzed 141 drinking water wells across the Appalachian Plateaus physiographic province of northeastern Pennsylvania, examining natural gas concentrations and isotopic signatures with proximity to shale gas wells. Methane was detected in 82% of drinking water samples, with average concentrations six times higher for homes <1 km from natural gas wells (P = 0.0006). Ethane was 23 times higher in homes <1 km from gas wells (P = 0.0013); propane was detected in 10 water wells, all within approximately 1 km distance (P = 0.01). Of three factors previously proposed to influence gas concentrations in shallow groundwater (distances to gas wells, valley bottoms, and the Appalachian Structural Front, a proxy for tectonic deformation), distance to gas wells was highly significant for methane concentrations (P = 0.007; multiple regression), whereas distances to valley bottoms and the Appalachian Structural Front were not significant (P = 0.27 and P = 0.11, respectively). Distance to gas wells was also the most significant factor for Pearson and Spearman correlation analyses (P < 0.01). For ethane concentrations, distance to gas wells was the only statistically significant factor (P < 0.005). Isotopic signatures (δ13C-CH4, δ13C-C2H6, and δ2H-CH4), hydrocarbon ratios (methane to ethane and propane), and the ratio of the noble gas 4He to CH4 in groundwater were characteristic of a thermally postmature Marcellus-like source in some cases. Overall, our data suggest that some homeowners living <1 km from gas wells have drinking water contaminated with stray gases.
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Doombrain wrote:Barnes was at the eye ofour rage and, through him, our Captain Ahab.
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feedback wrote:Or just read the research if you aren't an idiot:

Horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing are transforming energy production, but their potential environmental effects remain controversial. We analyzed 141 drinking water wells across the Appalachian Plateaus physiographic province of northeastern Pennsylvania, examining natural gas concentrations and isotopic signatures with proximity to shale gas wells. Methane was detected in 82% of drinking water samples, with average concentrations six times higher for homes <1 km from natural gas wells (P = 0.0006). Ethane was 23 times higher in homes <1 km from gas wells (P = 0.0013); propane was detected in 10 water wells, all within approximately 1 km distance (P = 0.01). Of three factors previously proposed to influence gas concentrations in shallow groundwater (distances to gas wells, valley bottoms, and the Appalachian Structural Front, a proxy for tectonic deformation), distance to gas wells was highly significant for methane concentrations (P = 0.007; multiple regression), whereas distances to valley bottoms and the Appalachian Structural Front were not significant (P = 0.27 and P = 0.11, respectively). Distance to gas wells was also the most significant factor for Pearson and Spearman correlation analyses (P < 0.01). For ethane concentrations, distance to gas wells was the only statistically significant factor (P < 0.005). Isotopic signatures (δ13C-CH4, δ13C-C2H6, and δ2H-CH4), hydrocarbon ratios (methane to ethane and propane), and the ratio of the noble gas 4He to CH4 in groundwater were characteristic of a thermally postmature Marcellus-like source in some cases. Overall, our data suggest that some homeowners living <1 km from gas wells have drinking water contaminated with stray gases.
Pennsylvania has a history of naturally migrating gas in rock with fracking likely acting as a catalyst for this process, methane contamination in that area has always been an issue though and could not be applicable to other sites. The study by Duke from Pennsylvania reports this and that no gases from the fracking site have escaped to the drinking supply.

It's also worth mentioning you'd prolly need to be drinking tonnes of water before methane becomes toxic and have the gas oven switched on full before it became explosive, from the levels reported in that study, with only around 3/4% of the samples being over the line of action... in an area with severe problems with methane already.

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Also notice how sparse the data becomes as you move further away from the site, 3/4 samples at +4.5 km ?.

It's also worth throwing this up which I found on my travels -
DURHAM, N.C. -- A new study by scientists at Duke University and the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) finds no evidence of groundwater contamination from shale gas production in Arkansas.

"Our results show no discernible impairment of groundwater quality in areas associated with natural gas drilling and hydraulic fracturing in this region," said Avner Vengosh, professor of geochemistry and water quality at Duke's Nicholas School of the Environment.
http://www.nicholas.duke.edu/news/study ... n-arkansas

So what they really mean is - 'We really don't have a fucking clue', when really they do.
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Doombrain wrote:Barnes was at the eye ofour rage and, through him, our Captain Ahab.
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