NIN - Hesitation Marks

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Nine Inch Nails' new album "Hesitation Marks" is available for preorder in various formats (digital download, CD, vinyl). An interesting thing for the audiophiles here is that if you preorder the album through NIN's own store you get a free "audiophile mastered version" as well:
Hesitation Marks was mastered in two different ways - the standard, “loud” mastering (which is what you’ll find on the CD, on iTunes, and everywhere else), and also an alternate “audiophile” mastering, which we’re offering as a free download option for anyone who purchases the album through nin.com. For the majority of people, the standard version will be preferable and differences will be difficult to detect. Audiophiles with high-end equipment and an understanding of the mastering process might prefer the alternate version.
More info can be found here.

Reznor stresses that the standard version isn't necessarily inferior to the audiophile version, but that both masters offer a different aural experience. I think it would be interesting to hear the differences in both versions.
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I have it. It's boring.
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Yay for dynamic range! I think Trent Reznor is singlehandedly pushing back against record label moronics and can only hope that more artists take notice.

"Loudness" Wars explained

I preordered a while ago and also snagged a couple of exclusive pre-sale tickets to a show in October (I get early admission so I'll be right in front). Album is released Sept. 3rd, and it's supposed to be available for streaming on iTunes but can only play the single.
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Hmmmm preordered my version from Amazon so no Audiophile version for me :(
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You can still cancel and buy through NIN.com (though if getting a physical album, not sure about shipping charges).
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Yeah but I like having the album the day it is released on Amazon Cloud...though I guess I'd have the same from NIN.com?

I will investigate
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Some pretty cool songs on here. I think he's a lot happier, post-marriage.
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Mogul wrote:Some pretty cool songs on here. I think he's a lot happier, post-marriage.
No shit. I'd be happier, post marriage, as well with a wife like that :eek:
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Don Carlos wrote:Yeah but I like having the album the day it is released on Amazon Cloud...though I guess I'd have the same from NIN.com?

I will investigate

Isn't that what "digital download" means?... not sure tho...

Plus, you get a choice of the following formats:

MP3
FLAC lossless
Apple lossless
High Resolution 24 bit 48k wav




I have to say, I like this Reznor guy... he seems to know a thing or two about recording music.
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Bits from the upcoming show:



Lots of high-tech gear including Kinect cameras for live image projections and custom software.
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Everything since downward spiral has sucked...
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That video was awesome and it just reminded me to download my copy of this album :D
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obsidian wrote:Plus, you get a choice of the following formats:

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High Resolution 24 bit 48k wav




I have to say, I like this Reznor guy... he seems to know a thing or two about recording music.
At that point, I wonder why he didn't just do a full 24/96 release? I suppose most people's sound card's don't go that high... but if you're already appealing to audio nerds, they are more likely to have said gear.
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Everything after The Fragile has failed to grab me on the first few listens. This one is no exception.

For the most part I have grown to enjoy the others before long, and there are a few tracks I really dig now. Maybe this one will grow on me in time as well...
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got it yesterday, enjoying it more than the last few albums he released. hope he comes out to nz to do a show *fingers crossed
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Sorry mate, but I can help you out of that dream.
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I've finally given the album a listen and I don't think it's all that bad. It's a bit mediocre I guess. It does suffer a bit from two things though. First of all, there's too many songs on there. I'd like some songs to last longer to delve deeper into the emotional state the music brings with it. Most songs feel like they're over by the time you really get into it.

What makes this even worse is the second problem I have and that's that most songs start off sounding like very uninspired poppy techno songs. As the songs progress, layers get added and the mood usually swings towards the more brooding sound NIN's known for and they actually start sounding good. It's almost like he's trying to draw a more mainstream audience into the song with a feint move only to then expose them to more traditional NIN sounds.

So what it comes down to is that there's some great ideas and sounds on there, but you've got these 4 - 5 minute songs which take like a minute, maybe a minute and a half to come up to speed. What's left is three and a half minutes of enjoyable song, which is too short to really hook into you and draw you into the flow.
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I will wait for obsidian's review
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Brian Warner did some reminiscing about the nin guy in his book.

meh, i am not a fan , not because of anything other than the music
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Copy of A is pretty cool. The hemiola really makes it (that's the synth pattern that makes it feel like the timing is being thrown off). I love how for the intro, the length of notes in the synth part is elongated and the higher frequencies are brought out, and as it transitions to the verse, even though the synth part (hemiola) doesn't change, the length of notes shortens and the frequencies die down, giving it a duller sound. This is how to interject real musicality in something as plain as a sine wave. Even if you don't know a lot of facts about music or music theory, your brain knows what's going on, and this is what makes the track listenable. Very cool and very smart.

Also All Time Low. The guitar part in the verse is really cool, and the whole thing has this dark funk to it that I like. Chorus chords are cool, and the reverb-laden lead guitar in it creates a cool mood. The chorus almost feels like really dark Peter Gabriel. edit: Forgot to mention the extremely NES Final Fantasy-esque outro. One of the coolest moments on the album, if not quite NIN-ish.

Running sounds like Trent is channeling Thom Yorke, either Atoms For Peace or The Eraser. The Very rhythm-driven, and harmonically sparse, but not hard-hitting. Not a favorite track, for me, but one worth mentioning because it feels so Thom-influenced. At least to my ear.

Not sure why they separated track 1 from Copy of A. Not sure why they separated the final track from While I'm Still Here. I think the last track is one of the cooler moments on the album and should've been showcased in While I'm Still Here.

Not a bad album, but disappointingly, I'm not sure any tracks on it are great. But what else is new? There hasn't been a fully-great NIN album since Downward Spiral, in my opinion.
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Keanu Reeves has really let himself go

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Nah bro that's John Cusack.
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Mogul wrote:Nah bro that's Joan Cusack.
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I enjoyed the album. Not the greatest, but still good. :up:
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Nine Inch Nails Tension 2013 show in Toronto. I got special nin.com member pre-sale tickets with early admission so I was standing right in front of the stage. They dropped a veil of LED lights which acted like giant transparent displays in front, between and behind the band.

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Copy of A
1,000,000
Terrible Lie
March of the Pigs
The Frail
The Wretched
All Time Low
Disappointed
Came Back Haunted
Find My Way
Various Methods of Escape
Into the Void
Survivalism
Running
A Warm Place
Somewhat Damaged
Wish
Only
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole

Encore:

Even Deeper
In This Twilight
While I'm Still Here
Black Noise
Hurt
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