Gamergate Strip Club Party [or Quake3World LI/NYC meetup pic

[QuakeSteve]

Looking good guys!

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -club.html

Friday night at the Show Palace Gentlemen’s Club in Long Island City, Queens, a high school senior named Dieter wearing a striped blue button-down tucked into creased khakis slumped in a plush red chair, underwhelmed by his first-ever strip club experience. “I’m not as aroused as I expected. I pretty much had a woman shove a vagina in my face and it did nothing,” he said. “I guess all the porn got to me.”

A dancer in a pink bodice and lace panties made her way over the LED-bedazzled floor carrying a cake, pierced by a single lit sparkler, which read “Happy 1st Birthday 8chan!” She placed the cake on a table in front of Frederick “Hotwheels” Brennan, prompting Dieter and a circle of other onlookers to begin shout-singing “Happy Birthday” over the club’s pounding techno soundtrack. Another dancer watched the celebration in amazement. “He’s only one year old?” she exclaimed, pointing to Brennan. Brennan does physically resemble a child, if not an infant. He was born with osteogenesis imperfecta, a disorder characterized by brittle and deformed bones.

Those are just the first two paragraphs!

[PhoeniX]

They're much cooler looking.

[QuakeSteve]

[shaft]

lol

[Mogul]

^ lmao

[QuakeSteve]

[Pext]

So this Gamergate thing is some kind of pride movement for angry-basement-nerds?

[QuakeSteve]

So this Gamergate thing is some kind of pride movement for angry-basement-nerds?

[seremtan]

or at least, it would have been about ethics in game journalism if the allegations had been true. what it's actually about is misogynist dicks sending death threats because they think ethics in game journalism is a big deal

seriously people: game journalism

game journalism

[Ferrao10]

It's about as much ethics as it has been about ethics in music journalism for the last 50+ years.
None.
But the two parties need to find seperate beds. In music as in games as in pretty much everything else.

[seremtan]

who the fuck buys a game because of what a journalist says these days?

we've got Twitch, Youtube, and a shitload of other ways to find out whether you'll like a game before you buy it

also: "ethics in game journalism"

[Eraser]

who the fuck buys a game because of what a journalist says these days?

More than a few people I'm afraid.

we've got Twitch, Youtube, and a shitload of other ways to find out whether you'll like a game before you buy it

Problem is, more YouTubers than you'd like to admit are contracted by game publishers to give positive reviews of their games (or Lets Play's that only highlight the positives). Just look up the Shadow of Mordor review contract that Warner Bros. gave out to reviewers. Not just "industry" journalists, but also independent YouTube reviewers. This in itself shouldn't be a huge problem, but the real problem is that this information usually isn't disclosed by the review, so people are watching a YouTube reviewer, expecting them to be completely honest and giving a complete picture of a game, while in reality, they are just saying what the publisher wants them to say. It happens a lot.

also: "ethics in game journalism"

It's easy to be really patronizing about this, but eventually it all comes down to people trying to find information about a game to judge whether or not they want to buy it, and all information they can find is tainted by the publisher's influential paws, without the consumer even knowing this.


Let me first say that I don't want to be associated with GamerGate and I disaprove of what many GamerGate associates are doing right now. I do think, however, that a little honesty can come a long way.
In the end it's all about not believing something to be true just because it's on the internet. It's why I like figures like TotalBiscuit or Jim Sterling, because they're open in what they do and I hope they remain trustworthy like that.

[feedback]

The only review that means shit is RPS

angry nergins need to kill themselves before they hurt others

[seremtan]

we've got Twitch, Youtube, and a shitload of other ways to find out whether you'll like a game before you buy it

Problem is, more YouTubers than you'd like to admit are contracted by game publishers to give positive reviews of their games (or Lets Play's that only highlight the positives). Just look up the Shadow of Mordor review contract that Warner Bros. gave out to reviewers. Not just "industry" journalists, but also independent YouTube reviewers. This in itself shouldn't be a huge problem, but the real problem is that this information usually isn't disclosed by the review, so people are watching a YouTube reviewer, expecting them to be completely honest and giving a complete picture of a game, while in reality, they are just saying what the publisher wants them to say. It happens a lot.

i don't doubt it, but i don't go on what youtubers or streamers *say* - i go by what i see of the actual game they're playing. if i think it looks shite, and they're saying it'd great (DayZ Standalone comes to mind...) then i won't bother with it.

it's a lot harder to conceal a game's defects when you're watching someone play it for 3 hours straight unscripted

[Tsakali]

your approach takes effort... people want instant satisfaction from a trusted source. Which would be possible if journalists weren't such whores, and didn't continuously belittle their own line of work.

[seremtan]

people want instant satisfaction from a trusted source

then they're victims of their own laziness as much as 'unethical games journalism'

[Tsakali]

Indeed, but it's often not by choice. Casual gamers or prior gamers with now limited options are not going to invest that time... they hardly find the time to enjoy said games, let alone researching them. They want someone to tell them what game they should pick up that will not result in hours wasted of their free time...not to mention money. They want what little time they can put aside from work, their fat wife and needy kids, to go towards a video game that will successfully satisfy.

[seremtan]

what does any of that have to do with lack of choice?

[Eraser]

Problem with your approach is that it also potentially spoils parts of the game for you.

You also don't get a clear picture of the entirety of the game. I mean things like the fact that while Alien Isolation is a great game, it's regarded by many people as unnecessary long. That's something you won't get from a Let's Play. It also could be that the Let's Play is of the best part of the game, where the rest is quite shitty. You just don't know for sure.

[seremtan]

i also mentioned Twitch, which includes the boring bits. i think you're just making excuses now tbh

i won't be getting Alien Isolation