Quake3World

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:41 am**

Well I did duel Foo. I said yes to someone elses duel offer but they never replied back. And yes, I did post a thread about getting q3 to work, i posted it in troubleshooting which is why you didn't see it. And I still play as we speak and still try to get better, i just made this thread to complain because it pisses me off that im always the worst player on every tourney server i join.

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:44 am**

I will play you. Do you have any type of instant messenger?

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:53 am**

Krazy_K wrote:Well I did duel Foo. I said yes to someone elses duel offer but they never replied back. And yes, I did post a thread about getting q3 to work, i posted it in troubleshooting which is why you didn't see it. And I still play as we speak and still try to get better, i just made this thread to complain because it pisses me off that im always the worst player on every tourney server i join.

So did foo not give you any constructive feedback about your playing? And how did you play foo if q3 doesn't work?

edit: oh, you played q4, I see.

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:54 am**

Krazy_K wrote:Well I did duel Foo. I said yes to someone elses duel offer but they never replied back. And yes, I did post a thread about getting q3 to work, i posted it in troubleshooting which is why you didn't see it. And I still play as we speak and still try to get better, i just made this thread to complain because it pisses me off that im always the worst player on every tourney server i join.

I know you've had a lot of 'oh well there's your problem!' type responses in here, but I think your practice may be suffering because of your mindset about being the worst player.

It's very hard to chart your improvement in FPS games, simply because of the ever-shifting state of the online game servers. This doesn't mean you're not improving, but it's sometimes difficult to see that.

As some extra advice on top of what I said via IM about level control (and learning to shift your focus away from chasing the opponent and onto grabbing the items), forget about the 'big' failures when you lose a match or a frag, and instead concentrate on the small ones... making a single lucky rocket shot.. catching your opponent without actually seeing him by second guessing him coming round a corner... shit like that. Go out, play the game, and when you score a minor victory like that, recognise it. Chalk that fucker up.

Small steps innit.

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:18 am**

I will play you. Do you have any type of instant messenger?

Yea I have yahoo

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:35 am**

Originally posted by Lenard:
Something I suggest to anyone: Before going into a 1v1, play with timescale 2.0 against bots or even by yourself for 15 mins or untill it feels somewhat workable. Then when you play 1v1 at normal speed everything is in slo-mo. This may seem rediculous but it is absolutely true. You will be thinking, "WHAT THE FUCK?" I have won many matches this way.

I just tried this... Unbelievable! Playing with the speed that high was weird, but I actually thought something was wrong when I went back to normal speed because it seemed so slow. I guess it's like running with ankle weights. When you take them off you feel like you can run twice as fast.

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:35 am**

Hop in the ffas and just play. Develop the killer instinct in a pool of victims that are weakened by others. Recognize the opportunities, learn how to follow through to the frag. THEN go play some 1v1. I don't think 1v1 against highly skilled tourney players is the place to learn to get better, until you surpass whatever level you're stuck in.. and yes, acknowledging and arguing that you're 'stuck' will just keep you 'stuck'.

(/me says as a firmly established #2 type)

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:06 pm**

Riptide wrote:
Krazy_K wrote: I alrdy know I'm out of talent. Am just pissed because it seems like im the only fucking one. But I know I have no talent from my time on unreal tournament. I spent 3 years playing for like 4 hours everyday. And not only did I not get better.....I also fucked my eyesight. Played that much when my moniter's refresh rate was at 60htz and I didnt know it. So eyesight went from 20/20 to 30/70. So to sum it up, I lost my eyesight for nothing. :icon33:
Thats not true. You've already LOST if thats your mindset,CHANGE IT.

Think of it like chess and break it down to simple things, enemy has just got the armor:so get the mh or other armor/shards.Enemy hit you, hit him back with an "aimed" shot depending on the weapon it may put you in the advantage.Learn the weapons and when to use them. Most important of all be calculating in everything you do,everything is premeditated.

As for your aim check your sensitivity I find in ut2k4 I use a lower sensitivity (18inches(45.7cm) per 360) due to being able to dodge into the "shot" so to speak In quake I use 10.5inches(26.7cm) per 360(mousepad is 11 inches(27.9cm) wide)
Soon after you finding the most comfortable sensitivity all round (usually for aiming lower is better and for movement higher is better) You will see the screen as your mousepad providing you always start in the center so certain shots become a habit at least if your a twitch aimer like most ppl.Also the better you understand your oppenants movement speed the better you will be at visualizing through walls where he is and where he will be in view next.

P.S. I am by no means pro at q4 this is just general fps knowledge you can apply it to any fps.

Riptide wrote:
Krazy_K wrote: Well I'm just saying that everything you guys are telling me Ive alrdy been told, and have tried before.
I find it hard to believe you even read what I said. Your problem doesn't seem to be any magical settings because they don't exist just long as your comfortable with them everything else is in your head.

Quoting myself for emphasis

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:20 pm**

Drop an q3 duel IP and let's play. Talk can only get you so far.

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:07 pm**

Drop an q3 duel IP and let's play. Talk can only get you so far.

I would if I could get q3 to work right.

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:08 pm**

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:44 pm**

rgoer wrote:ror

if this doesn't answer your question, i don't know what will :icon29:

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:19 am**

heh...sorry but not exactly sure what ror means.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:26 am**

Oh look at this shit. I got quake 4 the day it came out, and i just lost to someone who said he just got the game ten mins ago. Fucking bullshit.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:38 am**

Hardly.

I was good in Q3, more specifically RA3, and when I went into CoD I was in the top 3 nearly every time in frags simply because FPS skills do transfer.

If the person you played was good in QW/Q2/Q3/UT200X, then they could easily just transfer those skills to Q4. Its not really amazing...

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:02 am**

Krazy_K wrote:Oh look at this shit. I got quake 4 the day it came out, and i just lost to someone who said he just got the game ten mins ago. Fucking bullshit.

Why do you keep whining? Its pretty obvious if you're getting owned after all this time that you aren't learning from your mistakes. Time spent playing does not necessarily equal skill.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:08 am**

if you suck, and you're not willing to deal wit hit, or get better, or be pacient..get a new hobby.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:38 am**

I've heard collecting stamps can be rather interesting. Good for your blood pressure as well.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:11 am**

or APATT, All Porn All The Time

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:11 am**

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:46 pm**

Dude! Sometimes people ARE BETTER THAN YOU!

I think you place WAY too much value on winning/losing. You've gathered 4 pages (!) of people trying to offer helpful advise, and you boil it all down to "fucking bullshit".

Well good luck in your travels, you've convinced me I'm no longer interested.

PLONK!

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:57 pm**

jester! wrote:Hardly.

I was good in Q3, more specifically RA3, and when I went into CoD I was in the top 3 nearly every time in frags simply because FPS skills do transfer.

If the person you played was good in QW/Q2/Q3/UT200X, then they could easily just transfer those skills to Q4. Its not really amazing...

i completely agree and i try making this point many times over.. i began playin way back with q3test and once i started getting really good and playing lots of ra3 all my skills were easily transferable to slower/camp based games, in addition to other more faster paced games.

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:36 pm**

Krazy_K wrote:It seems like every first-person shooter game I play, theres numerous times where I join a 1v1 server and see a player that really stands out. Not like someone who just gets 2 or 3 more kills, I mean someone who really mops the floor with everyone, makes amazing shots, always knows where you are, and is always one step ahead of you, and makes it look easy. And I keep wondering, just how in the hell is it possible to get so good? I think ive gotten some decent years in 1v1 in unreal and quake, playin a few hours a day at most, but I i get owned by everyone and am nowhere near as good as some of the players I see. But ive always been curious what their secret is to get so damn good.

All you need is good training, watching demos,..=a lot of time

You need to get skilled in determening what's important in a certain point of match, attention distribution is what you're practice after you've learned the map/weapons/gameplay styles/player and item spawning.

Shooting in advance, or knowing what your opponent will do next is all expirience, wich leeds us back to good training and watching demos.

Also one of the most important virtue of a stand out player is always not getting the game personaly, not caring if you're gonna win or lose but caring to learn from the game, situation and your opponent as much as you can.

GL&HF! :P

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:48 pm**

Also one of the most important virtue of a stand out player is always not getting the game personaly, not caring if you're gonna win or lose but caring to learn from the game, situation and your opponent as much as you can.

+1. You're looking at the exact reason why the quake dueling community is so small. Everyone loses, and loses often at that. If you don't, then either you're not playing opponents up to your calibur, or you need to go make some money off of this shit.

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:49 pm**

I'd say on average everyone loses 50% of their games

Quake3World

How is that possible?

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