Anyway, I did notice one actual little fault (at least, I think it is), and that was being able to stand on the wall below the railgun.
Slowly but surely... (ODQ3DM6)
It's a long time since I played that map, so this may be the same in the Q3 version, but your bounce pads do seemto launch the player a long way above the resting platform.
Anyway, I did notice one actual little fault (at least, I think it is), and that was being able to stand on the wall below the railgun.
Anyway, I did notice one actual little fault (at least, I think it is), and that was being able to stand on the wall below the railgun.
Well, I can only do it in a few spots... But that REALLY helps, I mean stuck at 60 all the time. With good vising this should be fine.Survivor wrote:What is your sudden revelation?o'dium wrote:Wooooaaaaaaaaaaa.. Wait a god damn fucking second....
I think I managed to get vis working...
Well, I had been led to believe that vis only needs one side visible on the brush. The others can be caulked. Id been doing that with problems, obviously. So i made the whole brush just vis, thought i would give it a try, and it worked... Strange how stock Q4 maps onyl have one side with vis and the rest of the brush caulked, and those work...
Anyways, the only problem i have is actually adding the damn things to the right places... I gave it a quick try, but some places just dont work, or only half work, heh.
I think ill still wait for some advice by people that know what they are doing
I use "nodraw" for the brush, then "vis_portal" for one face. You need to absolutely make sure that the brush entirely fills the gap. Have you tried walking around your map with "r_showtris 3" and "r_showportals 1"? The first will show all the triangles that the engine thinks it can "see" from your current location, and the latter will (I think) show all your visportals. Red = closed, green = open.o'dium wrote:Well, I had been led to believe that vis only needs one side visible on the brush. The others can be caulked. Id been doing that with problems, obviously. So i made the whole brush just vis, thought i would give it a try, and it worked... Strange how stock Q4 maps onyl have one side with vis and the rest of the brush caulked, and those work...
Also, if a portal doesn't show up green or red where you think you placed one, it's probably because it didn't completely seal off the area. At least, that's what I found.
Sorry if you know that and I'm sounding patronising. =)
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PhantomLORD
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Texture corruption, when you came from armor shards area and enter area with lightning gun and look in the way where colums are. And textures around doors are not integrated with neighbour textures.
(sorry if maybe you know about that)
Strafe jumping through doorsways is OK. Rocket jump from bridge to rail and back is OK.
Maybe to do is on railgun jumppad to not stuck in wall/doorway, but and in Q3 is same.
Jumping on stairs you can, OK its great (in other q4maps you can´t) i dont know but you stuck in ceilings when you do that (red armor to bridge), but thats not your problem, is Raven and Id´s, we will see what patch will bring us.
How to get original item placement, or this is not done yet.
Great job o´dium for map and for listening community
keep going
(sorry if maybe you know about that)
Strafe jumping through doorsways is OK. Rocket jump from bridge to rail and back is OK.
Maybe to do is on railgun jumppad to not stuck in wall/doorway, but and in Q3 is same.
Jumping on stairs you can, OK its great (in other q4maps you can´t) i dont know but you stuck in ceilings when you do that (red armor to bridge), but thats not your problem, is Raven and Id´s, we will see what patch will bring us.
How to get original item placement, or this is not done yet.
Great job o´dium for map and for listening community
keep going-
MidnightQ4
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Those curved walls look tits! Nice!
Perhaps a quick summary of what you learned when you are all done would be really helpful to others who might take a stab at making a map. A lot of times it's those annoying hurdles (vis anyone
) that cause ppl to give up too soon. I'm sure any helpful hints would encourage ppl to get more maps out there.
Perhaps a quick summary of what you learned when you are all done would be really helpful to others who might take a stab at making a map. A lot of times it's those annoying hurdles (vis anyone
) that cause ppl to give up too soon. I'm sure any helpful hints would encourage ppl to get more maps out there.GJ so far! Afew small probs
You can jump from the rail area to this light fixture, then jump up to the bridge. Donno if this is a BAD thing, but hey.
Jump pad area seems too small
Nades bounce over these grills, should fall through right?
These pipes look cool, but they get in the way of RJing to/from rail bridge to armor bridge
I really like the looks of this, but it gets in the way of air rocks. I really can't think of a way to keep the looks and give the area more airspace...
BBQ grill and dirt?
Jump pad area seems too small
Nades bounce over these grills, should fall through right?
These pipes look cool, but they get in the way of RJing to/from rail bridge to armor bridge
I really like the looks of this, but it gets in the way of air rocks. I really can't think of a way to keep the looks and give the area more airspace...
BBQ grill and dirt?
o'dium they posted your map here: http://www.q4euro.com/comments.php?blogid=3&eid=144
check out the comments. pls don't get mad the map is looking good.
check out the comments. pls don't get mad the map is looking good.
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Lol, nice touch there odium.
Well I started walking around the map and it looks very impressive, good work. :icon14:
Because my framerate on it is around 7fps on average I turned on net_allowcheats 1. Any idea what r_singlelight number would work? All numbers I tried above -1 made it pitch black but the framerate shot up. I only want to feel what the physics are like with a good fps on the map.
Well I started walking around the map and it looks very impressive, good work. :icon14:
Because my framerate on it is around 7fps on average I turned on net_allowcheats 1. Any idea what r_singlelight number would work? All numbers I tried above -1 made it pitch black but the framerate shot up. I only want to feel what the physics are like with a good fps on the map.
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the doors are a little to tight.
compare by yourself:
Q3 original:
http://galeon.com/mikemikedie/q31.jpg
Q4 remake:
http://galeon.com/mikemikedie/q41.jpg
compare by yourself:
Q3 original:
http://galeon.com/mikemikedie/q31.jpg
Q4 remake:
http://galeon.com/mikemikedie/q41.jpg
The doorways are fine... If i change them anymore, the whole map goes to pot, get it?
Whats wrong with you, dont you read mikedie? The doorways used to be exactly the same scale, but the player jumps higher so they were made higher.
Oh forget it, i give up with this, let somebody else do it. You wont get a remake thats exactly the same without problems that i ran into like scale...
Whats wrong with you, dont you read mikedie? The doorways used to be exactly the same scale, but the player jumps higher so they were made higher.
Oh forget it, i give up with this, let somebody else do it. You wont get a remake thats exactly the same without problems that i ran into like scale...
My bad, didn't mean to give any feedback. Sorry if you viewed it in that mannor. :icon14:
I was just expressing my thoughts, that's all....
When compaired there is a sports car like feel to driving the Q3 marine around DM6, while in its current form there is a SUV like feel of driving the Q4 marine around DM6. That's all.
Again, I think it will be just fine as is. It will just take a little getting used to.
*one more edit just for fun
I was just expressing my thoughts, that's all....
When compaired there is a sports car like feel to driving the Q3 marine around DM6, while in its current form there is a SUV like feel of driving the Q4 marine around DM6. That's all.
Again, I think it will be just fine as is. It will just take a little getting used to.
*one more edit just for fun
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the high isn´t the problem but width.o'dium wrote:
Whats wrong with you, dont you read mikedie? The doorways used to be exactly the same scale, but the player jumps higher so they were made higher.
when 2 (or more) players try to walk/strafe through the door and they stuck/block eachother than you know whats "wrong" with me O_o
but ok its your creation.