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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:56 pm
by Oeloe
Riptide wrote:I find in ut2k4 I use a lower sensitivity (18inches(45.7cm) per 360) due to being able to dodge into the "shot" so to speak In quake I use 10.5inches(26.7cm) per 360(mousepad is 11 inches(27.9cm) wide)

I've read this before. Tbh i can't really remember how i used to aim when i began playing Q3 online 2 years ago, but i guess i used quite a lot of hand movements. Now i never make moves of more than 5 cm (2 inches) with my wrist and i do all the aiming by controlling the mouse with my fingers. A 1600 or 2000 DPI mouse helps if you want to aim like that. For low sens you don't need high DPI but your reflexes will never be as fast as they can be with high sens.
18 inches... fuck, my screen is 17 inch. :icon28: :icon32:
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:12 pm
by Riptide
Ya I use your method of aiming for tracking/precision shots. My larger movements are from locking the wrist and moving forearm up/down/left/right (b,a select start :P)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:24 pm
by DooMer
Yeah, the badge is fake.
I'm not the best player, but I can remember the exact moment when I was a total noob in q2 and everything clicked. I was spec'ing some guy who was miles better than me and thought "wait a minute, why am I playing like a fucking retard? THIS is how you play quake." Right after that moment I started destroying spirits, and crushing souls. Strange but true.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:37 pm
by NitrousFlare
DooMer wrote:Yeah, the badge is fake.
I'm not the best player, but I can remember the exact moment when I was a total noob in q2 and everything clicked. I was spec'ing some guy who was miles better than me and thought "wait a minute, why am I playing like a fucking retard? THIS is how you play quake." Right after that moment I started destroying spirits, and crushing souls. Strange but true.
well, that's a good question to ask all gamers
truly,
inspiring
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:22 pm
by Krazy_K
Originally posted by oxytocin:
go here and choose reflex 2. work on ur aim and response time
My computer won't load it.
Originally posted by clkou:
Instagib is a good mod for practicing your aim. Capture the flag is a good mod for practicing fast movement – time your flag captures and work to improve your time. Dueling is a good mod for practicing your mental game. FFA is a good mod for putting everything together.
I tried the instagib idea on both ut and quake. On unreal I played insta for 2 months straight, and it didnt make a hughe difference. When I tried it on quake it was always on Q3dm17, and I couldn't even fight back. I would just spawn, take one step, and get railed 13 times in a row. I hate capture the flag and team deathmatch because I hate being on teams with ppl. 1v1 is the only thing I play. And FFA I used to play alot on ut, but I'm sick of it for a bunch of reasons. I hate getting shot in the back and I hate ppl always stealing my fucking frags.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:57 pm
by pookie
Krazy_K wrote:
I tried the instagib idea on both ut and quake. On unreal I played insta for 2 months straight, and it didnt make a hughe difference. When I tried it on quake it was always on Q3dm17, and I couldn't even fight back. I would just spawn, take one step, and get railed 13 times in a row. I hate capture the flag and team deathmatch because I hate being on teams with ppl. 1v1 is the only thing I play. And FFA I used to play alot on ut, but I'm sick of it for a bunch of reasons. I hate getting shot in the back and I hate ppl always stealing my fucking frags.
Haven't you painted yourself into a corner? :/
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:59 pm
by ^misantropia^
Krazy_K wrote:When I tried it on quake it was always on Q3dm17, and I couldn't even fight back. I would just spawn, take one step, and get railed 13 times in a row.
Must've been InstaUnlagged. For some reason almost all the IU servers either run q3ctf1 (CTF) or q3dm17 (all other game types). Take a map that already suffers from excessive railwhoring in VQ3 and introduce it to instagib. :icon27:

- note how I never use that smiley. I do now.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:02 pm
by NitrousFlare
i seriously think you're problem is that you're takign the game too seriously. When i play, i do my best when i'm not even thinking about my score. Right when i do start thinking about my score, and telling myself, c'mon, go for the win, you can do it, kill everyone! i start to dwindle down the scoreboard.
open, lather, rinse, repeat
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:18 pm
by DRuM
DooMer wrote:Yeah, the badge is fake.
I'm not the best player, but I can remember the exact moment when I was a total noob in q2 and everything clicked. I was spec'ing some guy who was miles better than me and thought "wait a minute, why am I playing like a fucking retard? THIS is how you play quake." Right after that moment I started destroying spirits, and crushing souls. Strange but true.
So what exactly was the breakthrough for you that changed your game forever in the pursuit of crushing souls? Was it simply a realisation of controlling the maps for armour and MH? Or something else?
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:29 pm
by Krazy_K
Originally posted by pookie:
Haven't you painted yourself into a corner? :/
Well I'm just saying that everything you guys are telling me Ive alrdy been told, and have tried before.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:36 pm
by DRuM
How have you got your keys set up? Do you use WASD or similar? Have you also tried invisible weapons? I find that better personally. There's less distraction by not seeing the weapons, and more visibility for aiming. Simply focus on the crosshair. I use it all the time in Q3 and now in Q4.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:59 pm
by Krazy_K
I use WASD for movement. I have all weps (except darkmatter) binded to all the keys aruond my movement keys. And invis weps fucks me up. Cuz half the time ill forget what wep am using and try to rail someone with a nade or something.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:00 am
by Riptide
Krazy_K wrote:
Well I'm just saying that everything you guys are telling me Ive alrdy been told, and have tried before.
I find it hard to believe you even read what I said. Your problem doesn't seem to be any magical settings because they don't exist just long as your comfortable with them everything else is in your head.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:23 am
by DRuM
Krazy_K wrote: And invis weps fucks me up. Cuz half the time ill forget what wep am using and try to rail someone with a nade or something.
Putting aside forgetting which weapon you're using, have you at least tried it enough to see if it improves your aim? But also, you should be able to do it by feel. Your fingers will go to the weapon binds you created. Example, I don't need to see my rail, I know that mousewheel down will change to rail, wheelup for RL, spacebar for hyperblaster, etc. Try it. Find someone to spar with as well.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:28 am
by Krazy_K
Well ill try it a bit more and see if i can get used to it. I can't remember the cmd for it though.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:31 am
by Krazy_K
Originally posted by NitrousFlare:
i seriously think you're problem is that you're takign the game too seriously.
Well I try not to. But I really lose my nerve when someone rails me 15 consecutive times, or spawn frags me 4 times rapid fire in 10 seconds.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:36 am
by NitrousFlare
gwt quake three, and practice with bots.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:43 am
by Krazy_K
I have quake 3. And bots dont do shit. I own the bots everytime.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:43 am
by DRuM
The command is ui_showgun 0
( ui_showgun 1 to show weps again)
And if you're getting railed that much every spawn, then your movement needs looking at. Don't spawn and stand still, always be moving/dodging.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:44 am
by Krazy_K
And can someone tell me the cmd for invis weps again? I wrote it down somewhere and cant find it now.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:45 am
by DRuM
I see what you mean about your vision!
I already typed it above.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:46 am
by Krazy_K
ok ty. And i don't stand still when i spawn. It's just somehow most ppl i fight have pinpoint fucking accuracy no matter how much i try to strafe and switch directions on them.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:03 am
by DRuM
Regarding Q3, you owned bots on nightmare or the lesser difficulties? I play more Q3 than Q4 because my pc is too sucky for Q4 and I still prefer Q3. I think the enemy is easier to see in Q3, and so for you, if you're having trouble aiming, having better skins to aim at would make things easier. If you still have Q3 installed I'd like to spec you or even play you depending where you are.
Krazy_K wrote:
I hate capture the flag and team deathmatch because I hate being on teams with ppl. 1v1 is the only thing I play. And FFA I used to play alot on ut, but I'm sick of it for a bunch of reasons. I hate getting shot in the back and I hate ppl always stealing my fucking frags.
See, this statement says to me that you actually should play FFA a lot more. I don't really like teamplay either, FFA and 1v1 is all that interests me too. But you know, even though I suck at 1v1, I'm a lot better at it now because of FFA. I couldn't hit shit in 1v1 before and FFA got my aim together ( a bit more together than before it anyway). In 1v1, you'll find it hard to get better if you never get a chance to practise aim because you're fragged too quickly everytime. With FFA you actually get to practise aiming and prediction shots more easily. So if you're not doing teamgames or ffa, but only 1v1, you're making life hard on yourself. If you can't frag fairly easily in ffa, then forget 1v1 for now. 1v1 can be depressing for even the good players, it's lonely and it's tense. I have fun with ffa, but it helps my playing overall.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:07 am
by Krazy_K
When I say I own the bots I meant on the difficulties where its actually possible to win. (not nightmare or hardcore). As far as playing you on q3, I would if i could get q3 to work online again. Now every time i try to join a server I get a different error message everytime. And with ffa, I do play it every once in a while, It just irritates me real easily.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:12 am
by Krazy_K
"Server disconnected. Unpure Client detected. Invalid pk.3 files referenced!"
Wtf is this supposed to mean?