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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:30 am
by Underpants?
R00k wrote:
ek wrote:broez b4 hoez, no matter what.
yep, something like that.

maybe i'll post the fucked up drama/soap opera between a couple of my friends later.
hey beers and lunch, that's what this discussion calls for.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:53 am
by tnf
I'll drive down for happy hour tomorrow.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:00 am
by Geebs
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:The right to cars is not enshrined in their constitution. The right to bear arms is. This is the crux of why I've changed my opinion on this whole matter. Cars are not a right, they are a privilege.
What, someone making a bad decision in writing somehow makes it OK?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:03 am
by Geebs
Nightshade wrote:There are plenty of laws on the books that address this sort of thing. Guns shows need the SHIT regulated out of them, that's one damn thing that needs to change.
The most important thing, and I've said this numerous times, is to start addressing the reasons why people shoot each other in the first place. I never cease to be amazed at people that decry the "war on drugs" for the idiocy that it is, knowing that as long as there's a demand there will be a supply yet can't extend the same logic to gun violence.
If you're referring to financial inequality, that shit's never going to get fixed while you have a government system which only lets the super-rich get into office.

Re: Policy of Truth

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:44 am
by LawL
Underpants? wrote:Have any of your philosophical paradigms recently died a horrid, cold death, in front of your tired eyes at the midnight hour?

Did you shed a tear as the last breath of an idyllic existence fluttered coldly into space?

Philosophies are paramount to sanity, in my mind. Recently broken was my devout philosophy of always being truthful to people of importance in my life.

I don't want to put another face on this thing, truth is beauty, its' soul is purer than the sublimating mountain snow, and turning your back on it is nothing short of criminal.

I've recently found out that someone very close to me is not being faithful to their signif. other. knowing this would kill the other, literally. I can't be the bearer of that, no matter how I try, and at the same time, I can't avoid situations with either of them.

Anyone else here recently lost a cornerstone philosophy?
Sounds like a job for:

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:49 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Geebs wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:The right to cars is not enshrined in their constitution. The right to bear arms is. This is the crux of why I've changed my opinion on this whole matter. Cars are not a right, they are a privilege.
What, someone making a bad decision in writing somehow makes it OK?
I agree it's a bad decision but I now recognize that as it's a constitutional right, people approach the whole issue much differently than I had been doing.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:12 pm
by Nightshade
Geebs wrote:
Nightshade wrote:There are plenty of laws on the books that address this sort of thing. Guns shows need the SHIT regulated out of them, that's one damn thing that needs to change.
The most important thing, and I've said this numerous times, is to start addressing the reasons why people shoot each other in the first place. I never cease to be amazed at people that decry the "war on drugs" for the idiocy that it is, knowing that as long as there's a demand there will be a supply yet can't extend the same logic to gun violence.
If you're referring to financial inequality, that shit's never going to get fixed while you have a government system which only lets the super-rich get into office.
I believe there's quite a bit more to it than that.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:06 pm
by R00k
Underpants? wrote:
R00k wrote:
ek wrote:broez b4 hoez, no matter what.
yep, something like that.

maybe i'll post the fucked up drama/soap opera between a couple of my friends later.
hey beers and lunch, that's what this discussion calls for.
werd.

and that's gonna be one expensive lunch for me. :)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:48 pm
by VoxProminence
really thought this was going to be about depeche mode.


:paranoid:

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:51 pm
by Foo
your own personal cheeses?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:56 pm
by Drön
oops. wrong account.
i mean "really thought this was going to be about depeche mode."

heh.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:55 pm
by Grudge
Foo wrote:your own personal cheeses?
lol irl

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:15 pm
by Massive Quasars
Drön wrote:oops. wrong account.
i mean "really thought this was going to be about depeche mode."

heh.
Are you living it up in the prairies now?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:22 pm
by Drön
Massive Quasars wrote:
Drön wrote:oops. wrong account.
i mean "really thought this was going to be about depeche mode."

heh.
Are you living it up in the prairies now?
actually. i lived in the prairies for 5 years, i just moved back to Victoria like two weeks ago.


(was not trying to derail. sorry, ignore!)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:34 pm
by Underpants?
This is not the thread to revive your year-long postcount in. This is serious internet business. You'll have to move along, sir.

policy of truth is a good song, too damnit!

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:53 pm
by [xeno]Julios
for what it's worth, here's an excerpt from an essay i wrote a few years back - it has some relevance to the main theme of this thread:
The idea that there may be relationships between behaviours or thoughts and “peace”, which hold with great strength and apparent universality, may allow us to talk in some cautious sense of potential fundamental moral principles. The virtue of honesty may be such a candidate. This is not an unreasonable idea, even from a properly scientific perspective. If we view life on earth as a highly complex system of interacting parts, and we view “peace” as being a particular class (or family of classes) of dynamical interaction, then it is not unreasonable to suppose that there may be certain parameters that lend well to these particular dynamical states. An obvious parameter would be a range of geologic conditions that are suitable for sustained human life. “Honesty” may be understood in information processing terms, whereby information is transmitted with high fidelity through the system. Perhaps such fidelity is crucial in sustaining the system in certain dynamical states.
So yes, it is my experience that honesty is a great way to maintain peace and happiness, and even inner peace, but i'm not sure I'd go so far as to anoint it into an absolute law.

There may be occasions where honesty does more harm than good (being honest to a murderer who is looking for an innocent victim).

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:57 pm
by MKJ
imposter, thats not your paper. it didnt have the word "cognitive".

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:00 pm
by Nightshade
What a horribly written essay.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:08 pm
by plained
thats what i thought as well but i dint feel like saying nothin :shrug:

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:01 pm
by [xeno]Julios
Nightshade wrote:What a horribly written essay.
prose may be lacking, but what about the ideas?