Question about podcasting

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:36 am

Ok been looking this term up recently and am a bit confused.

I listen to an online radio station that specializes in a certain type of music. It's a file that when i load in winamp, connects to a server and streams the music live.

Now the server that is streaming this data is podcasting right?

So what the fuck do ipods have to do with this?

Is it just the ability to record these streaming sessions as an mp3 file, which you can then upload to your ipod and then listen to later at your convenience?

what the FUCK is so special about that?

Post by **Foo** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:40 am

Poscasting isa buzzword like multimedia, or broadband. It doesn't actually mean anything it's just a vague description of an idea.

As riddla said. MP3 files. Usually linked to in blogs. The people who create podcasts are idiots and the people who listen to them are fewer than anyone will admit.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:41 am

riddla wrote:actually, podcasts are typically just mp3 files of talk shows or commentary which you can download for later listening.

A play on the word broadcast.

then what is up with this quote:

The new iPod plays music, audiobooks, audio Podcasts, video Podcasts, home movies, music videos and popular television shows like “Lost” and “Desperate Housewives.”

Every single mp3 player in history, by definition, supports podcasts.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:41 am

and what's the diff between podcast and shoutcast?

i'm really confused here.

Post by **Foo** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:43 am

Shoutcast is streaming audio server software. Statements like 'listening to shoutcast' are just a convenient way of talking about audio streams.

A bit like how 'hoover' is used in place of vacuum.

Podcasting, as said, is just a shitty blogger word used to describe something that's completely inane and shitty.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:44 am

huh?

but isn't the thing i listen to (di.fm) a podcast? it isn't a blog, but it's an online radio station which features music as its exclusive content.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:46 am

tx riddla:

Podcast: Someone had the revolutionary idea of taking a compressed audio file and putting it online. Yeah, doesn't sound so sexy when I describe it for what it is, does it you morons? It would have been a great idea if streaming audio wasn't already around for over a decade before the word "podcast" entered the lexicon. Man, I can't stand the word "lexicon." Talking about all these shitty words has made me start using shitty words. I'm so pissed, I just slammed the door shut on some kid's nuts.

Podcasting: It's snob for "streaming audio."

so here's a question:

don't all mp3 players support podcasting?

Post by **Foo** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:47 am

[xeno]Julios wrote:huh?

but isn't the thing i listen to (di.fm) a podcast? it isn't a blog, but it's an online radio station which features music as its exclusive content.

No, that is not a podcast.

To be more specific, a true podcast is an MP3 periodical delivered (or discovered) via an RSS feed.

TBH I don't hate podcasting itself as much as it seems. I just resent the dumb buzzword use of what is otherwise quite a good idea.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:48 am

riddla wrote:
[xeno]Julios wrote:huh?

but isn't the thing i listen to (di.fm) a podcast? it isn't a blog, but it's an online radio station which features music as its exclusive content.
that is streaming audio. podcasts are the recordings of such streams into mp3 for later enjoyment.

so you need software to grab the stream and save it into an mp3 file right?

this software is on your desktop, and after saving the mp3, you have a podcast? And i gather you can download premade mp3's from radio station sites or bloggers?

BUT DON'T ALL MP3 PLAYERS SUPPORT PODCASTING THEN?

Post by **Foo** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:50 am

No... seee.

By support what they mean is that the software that comes with the player is able to take an RSS feed and download the mp3s from it/put them on your player.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:52 am

whaaaaaaa?

RSS feed - really simple syndicate or something - clueless about this really - something to do with delivering information when it gets released - sorta like reuters or something?

but i dont' get it - the ipod connects to internet?

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:53 am

riddla wrote:anything that will play an mp3 supports podcasting. why are you always so dense man?

EXACTLY - then why the whole buzz about how the new ipods support podcasting?

(implying it's a new feature)

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:54 am

and i'm not being dense. I'm trying to understand something properly, and not be a sheep about it.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:02 am

the word "podcasting" was founded with this idea being implemented initially only to ipods. now this idea is all over the net. it's only a descriptive word for a universal idea. actually has nothing to do with iPods anymore.

Post by **Foo** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:03 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast

Hope this helps.

Post by **Iccy (temp)** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:21 am

jules, podcasting isnt a action its aterm of definition.

podcasting is a apple word for basicly recording a radio show to be " broadcast on a ipod.

Its that simple, stop confusing yourself by making it complex brainiac.

Post by **shiznit** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:33 am

Podcasting is just stupid, downloading programs to listen? I heard a few podcasts in winamps media library, people just ranting about stupid crap. Tech news? I'd rather skim it over on a site then listen to some kid whine about it. So no thanks, I'd rather listen to the radio or music shoutcasts.

One thing I don't understand is why it has become so popular, you always hear CNN mentioning blogs & podcasting.

Post by **shiznit** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:36 am

BTW in the newest winamp when you open a shoutcast it opens the browser window wich tells you a bunch of crap the playlist already tells you. Is there anyway to disable it from poping up?

Post by **Chupacabra** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:38 am

thanks julez. i too wondered wtf podcasting was and every question at every step was exactly what i was thinking.

Post by **Foo** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:42 am

Yes, but have we answered it now?

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:07 am

Iccy (temp) wrote:jules, podcasting isnt a action its aterm of definition.

podcasting is a apple word for basicly recording a radio show to be " broadcast on a ipod.

Its that simple, stop confusing yourself by making it complex brainiac.

iccy that makes no sense. How can you broadcast something on an ipod?

what do you mean by that?

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:07 am

Foo wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast

Hope this helps.

yea that's the first place i looked - didn't help me understand what people meant about the new ipods supporting podcasts.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:24 am

[xeno]Julios wrote:
Foo wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast

Hope this helps.
yea that's the first place i looked - didn't help me understand what people meant about the new ipods supporting podcasts.

all iPods support "podcasts". two versions ago (5.0), iTunes started supporting podcasts.

Post by **Jackal** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:33 am

Foo wrote:Poscasting isa buzzword like multimedia, or broadband. It doesn't actually mean anything it's just a vague description of an idea.

As riddla said. MP3 files. Usually linked to in blogs. The people who create podcasts are idiots and the people who listen to them are fewer than anyone will admit.

How is "multimedia" a buzzword? And exactly how does it not mean anything? Lets see what multi media is:

1. Of or relating to the combined use of several media: a multimedia installation at the art gallery.
2. Computer Science. Of or relating to an application that can combine text, graphics, full-motion video, and sound into an intergrated package.

Now lets check out the word itself. Multi = multiple, Media = a conduit for communication.

Seems pretty spot-on to me. But then again, I'm not an idiot.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:39 am

shiznit wrote:Podcasting is just stupid, downloading programs to listen? I heard a few podcasts in winamps media library, people just ranting about stupid crap. Tech news? I'd rather skim it over on a site then listen to some kid whine about it. So no thanks, I'd rather listen to the radio or music shoutcasts.

One thing I don't understand is why it has become so popular, you always hear CNN mentioning blogs & podcasting.

you obviously have had a limited look at podcasts. they're just like blogs or any other website. there's bound to be lamers.