13fps :tear:

Post by **S@M** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:19 am

recently, my g3 500mhz iMac, with 384mg ram has taken a performance dive, cant see any reason in my config, and my connection is 512/126 yet I get between 13-37 fps and even in an empty server, my fps cycles continuously from 13-30's back to 13

no other apps running appart from gameranger either

activity monitor show average 73% cpu usage with no apps open;
I normally can get a stable 47-54 fps with q3 and gameranger running
here is the config but I dont think this is the problem:
// generated by quake, do not modify
unbindall
bind TAB "+scores"
bind ENTER "+button2"
bind ESCAPE "togglemenu"
bind SPACE "+moveup"
bind + "sizeup"
bind - "sizedown"
bind = "sizeup"
bind \ "+mlook"
bind _ "sizedown"
bind ` "toggleconsole"
bind a "+moveleft"
bind c "+movedown"
bind d "+moveright"
bind q "say Shot"
bind s "say hehe"
bind t "messagemode"
bind u "say ^4Uh Huh...Yeah...Uh Huh..."
bind w "say btw; wait 10; say NO SOUP FOR YOU!"
bind x "say NICE"
bind y "say doh"
bind z "say

"
bind ~ "toggleconsole"
bind PAUSE "pause"
bind UPARROW "+forward"
bind DOWNARROW "weapprev"
bind LEFTARROW "+left"
bind RIGHTARROW "weapnext"
bind ALT "+strafe"
bind CTRL "+attack"
bind SHIFT "+speed"
bind DEL "+lookdown"
bind PGDN "+lookup"
bind END "centerview"
bind F1 "vote yes"
bind F2 "vote no"
bind F3 "ui_teamorders"
bind F4 "g_synchronousclients 1; record; g_synchronousclients 0"
bind F5 "stoprecord"
bind F11 "screenshot"
bind KP_LEFTARROW "weapon 5"
bind KP_5 "+forward"
bind KP_RIGHTARROW "weapon 7"
bind KP_END "+moveleft"
bind KP_DOWNARROW "+back"
bind KP_PGDN "+moveright"
bind KP_ENTER "+moveup"
bind KP_INS "+movedown"
bind MOUSE1 "+attack"
bind MOUSE2 "+button3"
bind MOUSE3 "+zoom"
bind MWHEELDOWN "weapnext"
seta cg_bobup "0.005"
seta cl_timeNudge "0"
seta cg_trueLightning "1"
seta cg_oldPlasma "1"
seta cg_oldRocket "1"
seta cg_oldRail "1"
seta ui_bigFont "0.4"
seta ui_smallFont "0.25"
seta cg_noProjectileTrail "1"
seta cg_noTaunt "1"
seta cg_smoothClients "0"
seta cg_scorePlums "1"
seta cg_cameraOrbitDelay "50"
seta cg_noVoiceText "0"
seta cg_noVoiceChats "0"
seta cg_teamChatsOnly "0"
seta cg_drawFriend "1"
seta cg_drawTeamOverlay "0"
seta cg_deferPlayers "1"
seta cg_forceModel "1"
seta cg_teamChatHeight "0"
seta cg_teamChatTime "3000"
seta cg_bobroll "0"
seta cg_bobpitch "0"
seta cg_runroll "0"
seta cg_runpitch "0"
seta cg_railTrailTime "400"
seta cg_lagometer "1"
seta cg_simpleItems "1"
seta cg_crosshairY "0"
seta cg_crosshairX "0"
seta cg_crosshairHealth "1"
seta cg_crosshairSize "24"
seta cg_drawRewards "0"
seta cg_drawAttacker "1"
seta cg_drawAmmoWarning "0"
seta cg_drawIcons "0"
seta cg_draw3dIcons "0"
seta cg_drawSnapshot "0"
seta cg_drawFPS "1"
seta cg_drawTimer "1"
seta cg_drawStatus "1"
seta cg_draw2D "1"
seta cg_gibs "0"
seta cg_stereoSeparation "0.4"
seta cg_fov "100"
seta cg_zoomfov "22.5"
seta cg_drawGun "0"
seta g_allowVote "1"
seta g_filterBan "1"
seta g_banIPs ""
seta g_logSync "0"
seta g_log "games.log"
seta g_warmup "2"
seta g_teamForceBalance "0"
seta g_teamAutoJoin "0"
seta g_friendlyFire "0"
seta capturelimit "8"
seta g_maxGameClients "0"
seta cm_playerCurveClip "1"
seta sv_maxclients "8"
seta timelimit "0"
seta fraglimit "15"
seta dmflags "0"
seta com_hunkMegs "128"
seta com_maxfps "85"
seta com_introplayed "1"
seta r_fullscreen "1"
seta in_mouseLowEndSlope "3.5"
seta in_mouseHighEndCutoff "20"
seta in_disableOSMouseScaling "1"
seta vid_screen "-1"
seta vm_cgame "2"
seta vm_game "2"
seta vm_ui "2"
seta sv_hostname "noname"
seta sv_punkbuster "0"
seta sv_maxRate "0"
seta sv_minPing "0"
seta sv_maxPing "0"
seta sv_floodProtect "1"
seta sv_master2 ""
seta sv_master3 ""
seta sv_master4 ""
seta sv_master5 ""
seta sv_lanForceRate "1"
seta sv_strictAuth "1"
seta cl_yawspeed "140"
seta cl_pitchspeed "140"
seta cl_maxpackets "30"
seta cl_packetdup "1"
seta cl_run "1"
seta sensitivity "2"
seta cl_mouseAccel "0"
seta cl_freelook "1"
seta cl_allowDownload "1"
seta cl_punkbuster "1"
seta r_inGameVideo "0"
seta cg_autoswitch "0"
seta m_pitch "0.022000"
seta m_yaw "0.022"
seta m_forward "0.25"
seta m_side "0.25"
seta m_filter "1"
seta cl_maxPing "800"
seta rate "3000"
seta snaps "20"
seta model "sarge"
seta headmodel "sarge"
seta team_model "james"
seta team_headmodel "*james"
seta g_redTeam ""
seta g_blueTeam ""
seta color1 "4"
seta color2 "5"
seta handicap "100"
seta sex "male"
seta cl_anonymous "0"
seta cg_predictItems "0"
seta cg_viewsize "100"
seta r_glDriver "libGL.so.1"
seta r_allowExtensions "1"
seta r_ext_compressed_textures "0"
seta r_ext_gamma_control "1"
seta r_ext_multitexture "1"
seta r_ext_compiled_vertex_array "1"
seta r_ext_texture_env_add "1"
seta r_picmip "3"
seta r_roundImagesDown "1"
seta r_detailtextures "1"
seta r_texturebits "0"
seta r_colorbits "16"
seta r_stereo "0"
seta r_stencilbits "0"
seta r_depthbits "16"
seta r_overBrightBits "1"
seta r_ignorehwgamma "0"
seta r_mode "3"
seta r_customwidth "1600"
seta r_customheight "1024"
seta r_customaspect "1"
seta r_simpleMipMaps "1"
seta r_vertexLight "1"
seta r_subdivisions "20"
seta r_smp "0"
seta r_ignoreFastPath "1"
seta r_lodCurveError "250"
seta r_lodbias "1"
seta r_flares "0"
seta r_ignoreGLErrors "1"
seta r_fastsky "1"
seta r_drawSun "0"
seta r_dynamiclight "0"
seta r_dlightBacks "1"
seta r_finish "0"
seta r_textureMode "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST"
seta r_swapInterval "0"
seta r_gamma "1.643750"
seta r_facePlaneCull "1"
seta r_railWidth "16"
seta r_railCoreWidth "6"
seta r_railSegmentLength "32"
seta r_primitives "0"
seta r_lastValidRenderer "ATi Rage 128 Pro OpenGL Engine"
seta r_minDisplayRefresh "0"
seta r_maxDisplayRefresh "0"
seta r_appleTransformHint "1"
seta s_volume "0.437500"
seta s_musicvolume "0"
seta s_separation "0.5"
seta s_doppler "0"
seta s_khz "11"
seta s_mixahead "0.2"
seta s_mixPreStep "0.05"
seta s_chunksize "2048"
seta s_buffersize "16384"
seta com_soundMegs "8"
seta ui_ffa_fraglimit "20"
seta ui_ffa_timelimit "0"
seta ui_tourney_fraglimit "0"
seta ui_tourney_timelimit "15"
seta ui_team_fraglimit "0"
seta ui_team_timelimit "20"
seta ui_team_friendly "1"
seta ui_ctf_capturelimit "8"
seta ui_ctf_timelimit "30"
seta ui_ctf_friendly "0"
seta ui_browserMaster "2"
seta ui_browserGameType "0"
seta ui_browserSortKey "4"
seta ui_browserShowFull "0"
seta ui_browserShowEmpty "0"
seta cg_brassTime "0"
seta cg_drawCrosshair "1"
seta cg_drawCrosshairNames "1"
seta cg_marks "0"
seta cg_shadows "0"
seta com_blood "0"
seta s_ambient "1"
seta cg_delag "0"
seta cg_cmdTimeNudge "0"
seta cg_projectileNudge "0"
seta cg_optimizePrediction "1"
seta name "S@M"
seta com_zoneMegs "24"

Post by **Geebs** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:41 am

Open the terminal, run "top" and find out what's taking up that 73%

Post by **S@M** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:01 am

I typed in cd - top
is this it? never used terminal before, i got back:
tcsh: Usage: cd [-plvn][-|<dir>].

Post by **S@M** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:08 am

ah found a sudo command, it looks impressive but I have nooooo idea what it means:
Last login: Tue Nov 22 21:01:41 on console
Welcome to Darwin!

Processes: 53 total, 2 running, 51 sleeping... 131 threads 20:37:49
Load Avg: 0.77, 0.67, 0.63 CPU usage: 57.7% user, 21.5% sys, 20.8% idle
SharedLibs: num = 132, resident = 34.9M code, 3.38M data, 8.58M LinkEdit
MemRegions: num = 5087, resident = 75.2M + 9.64M private, 64.9M shared
PhysMem: 52.9M wired, 142M active, 171M inactive, 366M used, 17.2M free
VM: 2.90G + 108M 230202(0) pageins, 75634(0) pageouts

PID COMMAND %CPU TIME #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT RSHRD RSIZE VSIZE
1459 top 10.7% 0:02.68 1 17 26 312K 448K 2.20M 27.1M
1449 tcsh 0.0% 0:00.06 1 13 20 360K 680K 1.45M 22.1M
1448 login 0.0% 0:00.09 1 13 37 140K 440K 2.38M 26.9M
1447 Terminal 7.3% 0:08.05 3 63 139 1.86M+ 8.06M 15.6M+ 83.7M
1443 Safari 0.0% 2:56.97 6 112 478 37.6M 16.9M 41.7M 123M
1382 pmTool 9.3% 4:20.33 1 21 28 396K 504K 1.35M 28.1M
1381 Activity M 7.3% 5:33.09 2 68 153 3.68M 10.4M 19.0M 98.9M
1328 lookupd 0.0% 0:00.52 2 34 60 408K 980K 1.19M 28.5M
1306 BezelUISer 0.0% 0:00.05 1 25 28 168K 816K 812K 35.3M
1184 ScreenSave 36.7% 2:21:14 2 66 151 2.37M 10.7M 19.0M 83.9M
1176 iTunesHelp 0.0% 0:00.42 1 44 34 328K 812K 3.91M 35.4M
1171 Finder 0.0% 0:01.56 1 85 123 1.62M 8.76M 16.2M 79.1M
1170 SystemUISe 0.0% 0:04.65 1 241 159 1.56M 5.85M 16.7M 81.8M
1169 Dock 0.0% 0:01.60 2 76 85 484K 4.62M 8.05M 67.4M
1161 pbs 0.0% 0:00.90 2 32 47 600K 1.32M 4.66M 45.3M
1155 ATSServer 0.0% 0:00.62 2 48 74 608K 2.39M 1.79M 43.0M
1154 loginwindo 0.0% 0:01.73 6 241 123 1.33M 3.21M 4.63M 58.4M
700 AppleSpell 0.0% 0:00.16 1 24 41 664K 1.34M 1.62M 37.4M
357 LCCDaemon 0.0% 0:31.30 2 72 95 644K 3.63M 1.81M 75.5M
356 iTunesHelp 0.0% 0:01.64 1 51 73 252K 3.45M 1.00M 71.4M
351 IIDCAssist 0.0% 0:00.12 2 33 24 64K 764K 512K 27.8M
339 Finder 0.0% 25:40.30 3 252 344 8.82M 21.6M 19.2M 128M
338 SystemUISe 0.0% 0:54.77 2 196 187 2.28M 6.96M 5.20M 83.5M
335 Dock 0.0% 1:05.75 2 109 176 944K 11.0M 6.78M 86.6M

Post by **Canis** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:17 am

In the activity monitor (which is just a GUI for "top") click the "%CPU" column and list the processes by order of CPU usage. Then see what processes are taking up most of the CPU (as well as which ones are taking most of the CPU time - you might need to add the column).

I'm on my mom's 600Mhz G4 (upgraded B&W G3), and for CPU time I have these (in order of most CPU time):
Safari
Epson Scanner Monitor
iTunes
finder
mount_webdav
...etc.

For %CPU I ahve these:
Activity Monitor - 6.5%
Safari - 1.2 to 6.4%
Epson Scanner Monitor - 0.2 to 1.1%
iTunes - 0.2%

The rest...0%

Post by **Geebs** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:17 am

Any idea which of your apps "Screen Save" might be? The other usages you've got there look about normal - for example "top" itself tends to use about 10%

Post by **Canis** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:18 am

You do have a screensaver that's taking up ~36% of your CPU...

Post by **S@M** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:34 am

thats just a few pics I put in a folder and they swap around every 30 mins, I set it using right click on the desktop. Top CPU users are:
kernel task
windowserver 2%
activity monitor 39%
safari 9%
gameranger hardly registers
....I did have a second log in active, but have now closed it

I've done a trace route to the server I access, and its okay for my 521/128 connection:
--- 203.34.186.17 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 46.591/57.494/125.672 ms

edit the monitor is not showing the screensaver thing now, and if I want to close the terminal it says that will cancel some functions:
login, tcsh, top - would that be bad?

i think im in the shit here

Post by **Canis** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:40 am

closing "root" or "system" processes can destabalize your system, but you can kill any "user" processes without hurting your system.

Post by **S@M** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:42 am

okay, thanks Canis,

Post by **S@M** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:40 pm

ah, I had a second log in running, which I closed, and changed to teh standard apple desktop pic - screensaver was not turned on at all, and things seem back to normal.

sometimes java based apps seem to muck up mouse sensitivity in game for a few minutes. Anyone notice that? It comes good tho.

Post by **busetibi** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:12 am

fuck man how the hell can you play with 47-54 fps ????
christ i was getting better than that with a tnt 2 back in 2k
*waves@ s@m*

Post by **Canis** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:21 pm

I used to play with 30-50FPS on my 350MHz G3 w/ Rage128. It played well enough to battle it out in the arenas.

Post by **S@M** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:45 pm

lo Buse!!
its playable, not many bridge to rail type jumps tho

who was it that used to have as their sig file "its not the ping, its the prediction" might have been Axe or G-News doesnt matter, im shit at both lols, but welcome to a real forum mate, welcome to Mac land

)