High and Dry - Final

Post by **pjw** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:07 am

Aaannnd, it's done. Lots of minor last minute touches and a bit more detailing--the most major change from the final beta was switching LG and RL-at-RA, and switching some ammo around.

Thanks for all the help and feedback folks!

Obligatory pics:

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(Note mirror below! Thanks scourge34!

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Post by **primaltheory** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:21 pm

Dude this map is sweet! It looks good! One of the first quake 4 maps i've seen that looks like a quake 4 map, not a retextured quake 3 map!

(if that made no centz/dollars i'll explain more)

Post by **jester!** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:25 pm

I was in the middle of writing this at 2am or something when my son got up so its delayed a bit.

1. On the NG side of the Quad I like the tiny ramp jump you can do to get the Quad.

2. On the opposite side by the LG ammo there is a tiny step, with stair jumping not working it can screw up a jump.

3. The Rail is in a great spot.

4. I would personally like fences around the walls so there are less void deaths. Thats just a personal preference however since I hate space maps. :]

Post by **Lenard** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:57 pm

Please no fences, that would be sooo rediculous. I would really like to be able to play this map, and I will once I get this dvd drive in place.

Post by **pjw** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:01 pm

primaltheory: Thanks man!

jester!:
1. Glad you like the little slope jump--you can do it from the other side as well.

2. Good catch! I would have bet you money that I clipped every lip in the map until I actually took a look at it in the editor. Doh.
3. Yeah, the new RG placement was one of those wtf-3:00-in-the-morning ideas that actually worked. It used to sit on the floor below the ladder near YA.
4. Probably no more fences at this point. You would have really hated the original descending corner near the YA that goes down into the basement--it used to be completely exposed--no railing, no ceiling--and narrow...it was a bit annoying...

Post by **jester!** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:10 pm

Obviously its subjective, but why would fences be rediculous? Voids in main fighting areas just arent fun to me I guess.

Directed above pjws post...

As for the fences, I dont mind there being dangers and such to getting things, its just that constant falling into the void gets like you said annoying, dm17 is imo one of the most critically flawed disasters to ever grace a server. :icon25:

Still, a new map is a new map and I will definitly give it a few run throughs. :icon32:

Post by **pjw** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:11 pm

Hmmn. The only place I can think of that seems a little iffy is below the YA, only because it can be tricky to come flying out of the teleporter and avoid the Edge of Doom. I know for sure that I won't be putting fences near the RA, RG, or the MH-tele-dest, since that's the risk you take...

Was there a particular place that you found to be especially annoying?

Post by **jester!** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:25 pm

No not really, its just a general personal preference type thing. :icon26:

Another note though, there is a small block with a 50h, at the 10 second mark in Sonic clangs video, that should be non-solid or something, it messes with movement to much imo.

EDIT: The RG and MH are great as is, the RA however is one of the few more open spaces, an area that may see a bit of action, I can see a whole lot of pit deaths going on there.

Post by **pjw** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:28 pm

Already fixed--you're right, it was kinda squirrelly.

Post by **jester!** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:30 pm

Cool. :icon32:

Post by **Lenard** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:25 am

Well, after a certain point you hardly ever fall in the void anymore except for when your are pushed in.

Post by **primaltheory** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:30 am

where are you playing this at? I wanna come play!

Post by **jester!** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:51 am

Lenard wrote:Well, after a certain point you hardly ever fall in the void anymore except for when your are pushed in.

Thats the point, I am not talking about messing up and offing yourself, you should die if you cant control yourself. I am talking about running around, full health, just got the mega, all the weapons, even quad, your going for the RA and some dude plinks you into the void. Its lame.

:icon26:

Post by **Lenard** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:52 am

Plink them first :icon28:

:icon25: I like voids.

Post by **jester!** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:54 am

Lenard wrote:Plink them first :icon28:

:icon25: I like voids.

But to do that I need to slow down and look around first, spam the entry up to the 50h, generally play all CS like. It slows down the game and really just makes it so that newbies dont get crushed quite as easy.

Bah, circular argument. :icon25:

Post by **pjw** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:03 am

jester! wrote:I am talking about running around, full health, just got the mega, all the weapons, even quad, your going for the RA and some dude plinks you into the void.

As well he should, you greedy bastard you.

Post by **jester!** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:11 am

Bah! I want to be near godlike in my stacked power, ruling the server for 30 seconds. :icon32:

Post by **Lenard** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:25 am

When will someone make custom teles?

Post by **pjw** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:47 am

Lenard wrote:When will someone make custom teles?

There's a serious shortage of custom mapmodels for Q4, at least for the moment. I'm hoping people (Evil_lair springs to mind) will crank out some cool stuff.

Custom teles would be nice, as would pads/ramps. Also, just random crap to sprinkle around for flavor. Skulls/skeletons, chains, light fixtures, busted weapons, crushed beer cans, used condoms, you know...

Post by **GODLIKE** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:03 pm

(Anyone could make custom teleports out of brushes.. but using the stock ones makes it easier for people to just drop in and be acquainted with the map.. )

This is a huge improvement over the first beta, actually.. More of the navigation seems to make more sense. I still find some of the trickjumps a little hard to pull off naturally.. But then, maybe I'm not very good at trick jumping? :icon26:

Post by **SonicClang** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:04 pm

From now on you should just post here pjw. Having the double post confuses me. :icon28:

Post by **Oeloe** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:43 pm

Lenard wrote:When will someone make custom teles?

Yeah, the stock model gets boring so quickly while i'm not even really bored with the one from Q3 (with the yellow 'wings').

I like simple flat 'models' best, like in Lukin's map Monsoon, and Q1 style tele's like in CPMA maps too.

Post by **pjw** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 4:33 am

New version up (edited first post).

Post by **jester!** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 5:22 am

Sweet, looking great. One question however, the boxes with the shards to the right of the RA in the picture, I can ramp jump up to the pipe, up one box, then I cant jump up the rest of the way, need a HB boost to get to the next box, then I can get up to the platform. Is that as intended?

Post by **pjw** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 5:34 am

Ah crap. No. Fixing. Argh.

Edit: There you go. Nothing to see here...move along...

(Sorry you have to download it again if you want the fix though.

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