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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 12:22 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'm looking at idsoftware's page at 03:17 on the 29th of March and they have the following articles:

ID store under renovation
Carmack inducted into walk of fame
Dec 9th 2005 Quake 4 Online tournament

Notice something missing? Nothing about the 1.1 Final or 1.1 beta patch. After doing some research it appears as if widescreen mode in 1.1 Final can damage your monitor. I haven't found anything official except some disclaimers on download sites for 1.1 and the lack of a download on ID's website.

Anyone else notice this?

Need a german translator:

Description
Le patch 1.1 pour Quake 4.

Attention, le patch est buggé et peut abîmer votre moniteur si vous utilisez la fonction WIDESCREEN. id Software compte sortir une nouvelle version du patch sous peu.

En attendant, mieux vaut ne pas télécharger le patch.



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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 12:24 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


esreality.com



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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 12:28 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Mogul wrote:
esreality.com


Can anything else go wrong with Q4? I mean some of the hurdles this game has had is just unreal. Almost laughable actually.

*UPDATE* According to a posting on the Quake3World.com message boards, the following message was left by an id employee:

Please take down your mirror for the Quake 4 1.1 beta and/or final. There is a problem with the widescreen functionality that may harm a user's monitor. We are working on a re-release and will make it available as soon as possible. Please advise your viewers that may be using the current 1.1 beta and/or final to NOT enable widescreen or disable widescreen if they are currently using it.

The download links and mirrors will stay, but be advised of the current situation. Links will switch to the updated version once this is fixed.



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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 12:41 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Bueller wrote:
Need a german translator:

Description
Le patch 1.1 pour Quake 4.

Attention, le patch est buggé et peut abîmer votre moniteur si vous utilisez la fonction WIDESCREEN. id Software compte sortir une nouvelle version du patch sous peu.

En attendant, mieux vaut ne pas télécharger le patch.

It's French. It approximately means:

Description
The 1.1 patch for Quake 4.

Attention, this patch is buggy and can damage your monitor if you use the WIDESCREEN function. id Software intends to release a new version of the patch soon. While we're waiting for that, it might be better to not download this patch.




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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 12:44 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Actually its french, not german..
Quote:
Description The patch 1.1 for Quake 4.

Attention, the patch is buggy and can damage your monitor if you use function WIDESCREEN.

id Software intends to release a new version of the patch soon.
While waiting, its better not to download the patch.


I don't understand a word french, so possible the translator has made some errors, but reading it, it seems correct.

edit: argh too late :icon32:
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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 05:18 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


/shuts down q4 servers in disgust and walks away...



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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 07:50 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


There is already a whole slew of bug posts over here:

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1042813

:( I'll go back to waiting another 5 months now.
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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 08:13 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Maybe someone should remove the stickied thread announcing the patch??



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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 08:16 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


lal, this game is turning into a joke.
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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 08:33 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


^misantropia^ wrote:
Attention, this patch is buggy
I think "buggé" should be translated as bugged -- a word that's more likely to be used in an official announcement like this. ;)
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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 08:46 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


This patch is actually the shit besides a few remaining bugs. They didn't make any gameplay changes? The movement seems like way smoother.
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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 08:59 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


aye seems to run faster and smoother. Perhaps that is down to some of the bugfixes (sound etc etc). Forcemodels will also help to reduce the strain on pc's - possibly improving fps ?
gameplay fixes in 1.2 allegedly (apparently they're aiming for a quicker upgrade cycle this time, although lol i wouldn't count on that)

as for the widescreen problem, I am not too concerned as i don't have a widescreen monitor :) . I haven't read the bug posts yet, although initial impressions of the patch are good - more things fixed, than broke (bitchin aside, i call that heading in the right direction)
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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 09:05 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah, the overall impression is ok. They could have added a demo playback menu though... -_-

I found some sparklies (in Outpatient) and other errors (Double edged) though.




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The bug doesn't even sound like a big deal, but I guess they have to cover all their bases.

SyncError:
The problem doesn't even occur when you are on that monitor and you force it into widescreen (which it doesn't support). The problem occurs when you attempt to force it into widescreen, ignore the warning message "Video Mode not Supported" and keep clicking the toggle over and over. As in nearly a hundred times. THEN after all that time, it is causing this one model of monitor to get damaged. In otherwords, they have no clue if it even has to do with the game. It may just be poor manufacturing and rapidly changing modes over and over cause the monitor to fail.
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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 11:02 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


my. $.02... The movement is definately smoother. I can't really describe how, but it feels MORE controlled, somehow..
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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 11:51 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I love this patch it feels very very smooth and fast with the strafe and crouch sliding = fast.



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Could there be anymore problems with getting this patch out the door ? Any ideas of how long it will take to "test" then get the patch back out and available ? A Week ,2 weeks ? I'm sure there won't be too many server admins willing to install and run a patch that has been pulled.So those clients who have already updated are left out in the cold till it gets re-released and the servers can get updated.

I realize there is not much that can be done to prevent these sorts of bugs from cropping up and that I can go back to the 1.0.5 patch if need be but good Lord this game has had some growing pains. It'll be nice just to have something final ,finally.
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widescreen monitor damage is 101% just a cover to some other major bugs that they've discovered or realised just after releasing the patch..

i doubt that the wd enable can damage anyone's monitor -> they would already have a ton of suits or ppl claiming that their monitor is damaged just to get som money ;)
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Top3koms wrote:
I'm sure there won't be too many server admins willing to install and run a patch that has been pulled.So those clients who have already updated are left out in the cold till it gets re-released and the servers can get updated.


I am not so sure about that, its business as usual as far as i am concerned. - we've currently got 6 1.1 final servers running, and are continuing to mirror the file (with a little footnote naturally)
The release is proving popular, with no current 'major' problems client or serverside. (lol i may well end up eating my words - its only been 24 hrs or so)

When the new release comes out, we will patch everything and replace the files with the new version.
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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 03:30 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Same here.. Running the new patch, server is online...
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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 03:32 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I don't own a widescreen yet so I am cover. I have a 19" crt with a 17" LCD NEC.



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PostPosted: 03-29-2006 03:33 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Good thing I don't use a widescreen. Other wise I couldn't enjoy this master piece of a patch.
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kleeks wrote:
Top3koms wrote:
I'm sure there won't be too many server admins willing to install and run a patch that has been pulled.So those clients who have already updated are left out in the cold till it gets re-released and the servers can get updated.


I am not so sure about that, its business as usual as far as i am concerned. - we've currently got 6 1.1 final servers running, and are continuing to mirror the file (with a little footnote naturally)
The release is proving popular, with no current 'major' problems client or serverside. (lol i may well end up eating my words - its only been 24 hrs or so)

When the new release comes out, we will patch everything and replace the files with the new version.


No current major bugs?
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1042813



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Damn, that's a whole lot of sound bugs/issues. Pretty crazy how much bugs of the sound system (netcode?) are being reported. Dualcore support still seems to be causing issues as well.

Quote:
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what will 1.2 unfold...
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lol

Thank god we're not all stuck with Q4 but still have Q3, in perfect condition! :D
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The only bug that still hurts my feelings: Weird late/dropped/laggy sounds.

Telejump to mega on monsoon? It sounds like you're being chased by an opponent, the sound is SO late...
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The only bug I've encountered is the rail buzz sticks after people die, but man that's a really annoying one. Other than that my sound seems alright, and I have shitty onboard sound.
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DooMer wrote:
The only bug I've encountered is the rail buzz sticks after people die, but man that's a really annoying one. Other than that my sound seems alright, and I have shitty onboard sound.


I think it is the newer cards that are having issues. At least in my case. I have an x-fi card. I get laggy delayed sounds, can't hear my jumps or weapons firing, but can hear them hit walls. The volumes are hosed also, rockets almost blow out my speakers and sound distorted like the gain is 1000%, while mg bullets are almost not able to be heard past 10 feet away.
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MidnightQ4 wrote:
DooMer wrote:
The only bug I've encountered is the rail buzz sticks after people die, but man that's a really annoying one. Other than that my sound seems alright, and I have shitty onboard sound.


I think it is the newer cards that are having issues. At least in my case. I have an x-fi card. I get laggy delayed sounds, can't hear my jumps or weapons firing, but can hear them hit walls. The volumes are hosed also, rockets almost blow out my speakers and sound distorted like the gain is 1000%, while mg bullets are almost not able to be heard past 10 feet away.


I have a very old sound blaster that doesnt support the new advanced sound and the rockets blow my headsets off. I turned down my base in windows a little bit to try to help it but it kinda takes away from the experience.



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Bueller wrote:
No current major bugs?
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1042813


hehe aye, seen that thread - I'd call most of them n i g g l e s though, major bugs would cause application breakage, and althoguh theres a smattering of people with problems, I have yet to experiance any of them in q4base.

That said, i've just had to reboot ctf #1 (invalid handle) - started to get these under 1.1 beta, but the frequency is not such as to cause concern (for the time being)

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