Tilde/hash key

Post by **DRuM** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:02 pm

Quite some time ago, someone at q3w linked me to some software ( I have no idea what that software was) which changed my tilde/hash key. I really can't remember the reason why I needed to change something, I think I was trying to swap something around, but anyway, that key has been 'p' and 'P' for a long time now. I've replaced the keyboard with a brand new one today of the exact same model, a Trust KB-1300, PS/2 input. With the trust drivers or standard microsoft drivers, the key remains at 'p' instead of hash, and remains at 'P' instead of tilde when holding shift. Any way I can get that key back to normal? My 'p' key is still the same, so basically I've ended up with duplicate lower and upper case 'p' keys. As a test, the Accessories/Accessibility/On-screen keyboard tilde and hash works fine with the mouse, so I'm not sure exactly where the problem lies regarding the keyboard. My hash/tilde key is directly above the right shift key, and left of the enter key. TIA.

Post by **YourGrandpa** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:23 am

Sounds like you need to format C:

Post by **Silicone_Milk** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:32 am

um.. no. Don't format C:\

First of all - is the software STILL installed?

Really sounds to me like some registry keys were changed.

Post by **YourGrandpa** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:02 am

You might need to drop a few coins into the back of your PSU.

Post by **DRuM** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:43 am

Silicone_Milk wrote:um.. no. Don't format C:\

First of all - is the software STILL installed?

Really sounds to me like some registry keys were changed.

I think you're right about registry keys. As far as the software, it's installed now and has been uninstalled and reinstalled. It doesn't seem to change anything though.

Post by **4days** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:25 pm

http://www.randyrants.com/2006/03/sharpkeys_20.html

Post by **DRuM** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:41 pm

4days wrote:http://www.randyrants.com/2006/03/sharpkeys_20.html

Thanks but I can't seem to get it to work.

Post by **Oeloe** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:46 pm

You used a key remapping program that changes the key mappings in the registry. Perhaps the one linked to in an the ESR article: ESReality.com - Keyboard multiple keypress fix updated

This :icon10: http://www.megagames.com/news/html/twea ... weak.shtml

Post by **DRuM** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:45 pm

Oeloe wrote:You used a key remapping program that changes the key mappings in the registry. Perhaps the one linked to in an the ESR article: ESReality.com - Keyboard multiple keypress fix updated

This :icon10: http://www.megagames.com/news/html/twea ... weak.shtml

I tried this program you linked. I can't even find a tilde or hash key on it to remap to my keyboard.

Post by **4days** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:15 am

start > run > type "regedit"

go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout

that's where any remapped keys will be sitting.

hit 'export' on the file menu in case something bollockses up. now delete the entry called 'scancode map'.

log off/on or restart your machine.

Post by **DRuM** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:46 am

Cheers mate, I shall give that a go later.

Post by **DRuM** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:37 pm

Here's a screenshot of my HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout , but, I don't see an entry to delete called 'scancode map'

[lvlshot]http://freespace.virgin.net/roman.five/ScreenShot191.jpg[/lvlshot]

Post by **Silicone_Milk** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:18 pm

you... can always do a brute way of resetting the system registry hive. I don't recommend it but I'm 99% positive it will fix your problem.

use your windows recovery disk and boot from it. Hit R to go into the recovery console.

you'll get a black screen asking you to choose your Operating System. Choose Windows and hit Enter.

You'll see C:\WINDOWS now.
type in this

Code: Select all

md tmp
copy c:\windows\system32\config\system c:\windows\tmp\system.bak

delete c:\windows\system32\config\system

copy c:\windows\repair\system c:\windows\system32\config\system

Now type in Exit.

This will reboot your computer with a fresh system registry hive. The downside to doing this is that any hardware you installed will need to be reinstalled and any driver updates you've done will need to be done again.

Good luck!

Post by **Tormentius** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:04 pm

Thats not exactly good advice since it affects far more than just his keyboard :icon27:

Post by **DRuM** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:26 am

Yeah, that all sounds too risky and too much hassle. Well, I can get those characters with the accessibility/on screen keyboard if need be. Basically, you could say I made a 'hash' of things. :icon26:

Post by **4days** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:20 am

DRuM wrote:Here's a screenshot of my HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout , but, I don't see an entry to delete called 'scancode map'

[lvlshot]http://freespace.virgin.net/roman.five/ScreenShot191.jpg[/lvlshot]

aye - you could try seaching the registry for 'scancode map' - there are a few places it mentions 'keyboard layout'. maybe whatever app you used wrote to one of those.

Post by **Silicone_Milk** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:40 am

Tormentius wrote:Thats not exactly good advice since it affects far more than just his keyboard :icon27:

Never claimed it was "good" advice. I just meant if in the worst case scenario he can't fix the keyboard by any other methods to try that. I wouldn't recommend it for anything but a last resort. I just had to do it to clear some malware registry keys in the hive that I was denied access to as Administrator. So I ended up just trashing the whole hive and replacing it.

Post by **DRuM** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:18 pm

Hey, I was just renaming a shortcut on my start menu for tomb raider- legend. I accidentally pressed the hash key instead of the minus key and was like 'wtf, the hash is back and so is the tilde'. Weird because I don't remember exactly sorting it out other than pressing a few things on these programs you guys linked. I only have Oeloes key tweak program installed now so it's probably that or else perhaps the new keyboard sorted itself out after a reboot, I dunno. Anyway, benefit of the doubt, thanks to 4 days and Oeloe for the links.

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Post by **Oeloe** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:15 pm

DRuM wrote:#################~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#############################

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You could have copy/pasted that.