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Inverted or not?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:22 pm
by bork[e]
Been playing through vice city again for the past few days and can't figure out how to turn off inverted controls while using a controller. While running and driving around they are not inverted, but if I equip the shotgun or a couple of the smgs My controls become inverted while using the fps style view.

Is there a way to turn that off?

I'm sure this has been discussed numerous times, but just wondering how many people really use inverted controls. I know of a few that do, but only on fps style games. But on 3rd person and other racing type games they use standard... I'm completely worthless with inverted, seems like switching between in every other game would almost hurt you more than anything to me.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:26 pm
by Fender
I play inverted in 1st person FPS and flight sims, regular for everything else.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:26 pm
by R00k
I have to play FPS inverted. Any other way is like trying to write with my left hand.

Third person is different though. It doesn't seem to make as much a difference, and I can just play whichever way the game calls for.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:28 pm
by Scourge
Not inverted on anything.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:04 pm
by tnf
Vertical is inverted on everything I play. I also invert the horizontal axis when playing any 3rd-person games where the right stick controls the camera movement.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:13 pm
by Transient
I invert the Y axis whenever possible.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:17 pm
by JooKed
When I had my Xbox, I used to play all my fps games inverted. After a long 1 or 2 year break from consoles, I got my 360 (along with gears) and found out that playing inverted was very difficult. I switched to normal controls and found that was just as difficult. I was in quite a conundrum untill I figured I had to get used to one. So I just chose normal controls over my classic inverted controls. I hadn't played a console shooter in so long that I died many times on casual difficulty. Anyways, it was a change for the best since my friends all play with normal controls.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:28 am
by Berserker
I invert the Y axis for nearly everything.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:31 am
by SOAPboy
I dont invert anything unless its a flight sim.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:34 am
by Tsakali_
SOAPboy wrote:I dont invert anything unless its a flight sim.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:33 am
by MKJ
SOAPboy wrote:I dont invert anything unless its a flight sim.
w3rd
i never got the preference of inverted y or x

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:50 am
by Captain
Being a PC gamer, in a game like Battlefield 2142, I only invert the mouse for flyers.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:03 am
by Eraser
Always vertical inverted for me.
The reason I do this can simply be explained as follows:

Stand up, put your mouse-hand in front of you. Now bend your body forward as if you're looking down. Your hand will move forward, relative to the floor.
If you bend back up, your hand will move backward. If you look at it that way, inverted Y-axis is a very natural thing.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:41 am
by Tsakali_
Eraser wrote:Always vertical inverted for me.
The reason I do this can simply be explained as follows:

Stand up, put your mouse-hand in front of you. Now bend your body forward as if you're looking down. Your hand will move forward, relative to the floor.
If you bend back up, your hand will move backward. If you look at it that way, inverted Y-axis is a very natural thing.
i bet you looked like a retard playing Q3

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:02 am
by Eraser
Tsakali_ wrote:
Eraser wrote:Always vertical inverted for me.
The reason I do this can simply be explained as follows:

Stand up, put your mouse-hand in front of you. Now bend your body forward as if you're looking down. Your hand will move forward, relative to the floor.
If you bend back up, your hand will move backward. If you look at it that way, inverted Y-axis is a very natural thing.
i bet you looked like a retard playing Q3
It doesn't matter, I'd kick your ass nine out of ten times anyway :smirk:

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:15 am
by Geebs
Inverted controls ever since playing F19 stealth fighter on the Atari ST

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:23 am
by Scourge
Eraser wrote:Always vertical inverted for me.
The reason I do this can simply be explained as follows:

Stand up, put your mouse-hand in front of you. Now bend your body forward as if you're looking down. Your hand will move forward, relative to the floor.
If you bend back up, your hand will move backward. If you look at it that way, inverted Y-axis is a very natural thing.
Do you have your mouse inverted on your desktop too? :p

Seriously though, that's the reason I don't invert. I'm used to the mouse going up the screen when I move it forward so I keep it that way in FPS games. Especially when I'm not moving forward or backward, just my hand is. :)

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:30 am
by Eraser
Scourge wrote:
Eraser wrote:Always vertical inverted for me.
The reason I do this can simply be explained as follows:

Stand up, put your mouse-hand in front of you. Now bend your body forward as if you're looking down. Your hand will move forward, relative to the floor.
If you bend back up, your hand will move backward. If you look at it that way, inverted Y-axis is a very natural thing.
Do you have your mouse inverted on your desktop too? :p

Seriously though, that's the reason I don't invert. I'm used to the mouse going up the screen when I move it forward so I keep it that way in FPS games. Especially when I'm not moving forward or backward, just my hand is. :)
Yeah that's just the difference in thinking. You push the crosshair up, I control the rotation of the camera.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:22 pm
by Grudge
Yes, I also use inverted vertical, for the reason Eraser stated. The "normal" way is totally unintuitive and backwards to me.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:02 pm
by plained
no no inversion

but i use higher vert/horiz sens than sideways

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:05 pm
by Ryoki
I adapt to the default settings of each game.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:35 pm
by d3mol!t!on
It's crazy, I find it weird not to use console controllers inverted for shooters, but on my PC I find it weird to have my mouse movement inverted so use it the other way :dork:

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:46 pm
by 4days
if you're using a joystick, then you pull back to go up. if you're controlling something that'd normally be controlled by a joystick (e.g. a plane) then then pulling back should make you go up as well.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:03 pm
by R00k
Eraser wrote:Yeah that's just the difference in thinking. You push the crosshair up, I control the rotation of the camera.
Exactly -- I think that accounts for the difference in preference.

I don't think of moving my mouse as moving the crosshair, I think of it as moving my head (so to speak). I don't move the crosshair to line it up on a target; I move my viewing area until my target is in the center of it, and the crosshair happens to line up that way. :)

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:12 pm
by bikkeldesnikkel
It's the same either way, so a discussion about it is rather pointless. Just go with what works best.