US PS3 drops to $500

Post by **Fender** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:53 am

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/fun.games/ ... index.html

$500 for a BluRay player... tempting. MS might drop the 360 by $100 @ E3.

Post by **o'dium** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:00 pm

Well, from what people have been saying online, its still not a good thing.. No idea HOW its not a good thing, any money off is a good thing in my eyes...

But MS already stated if and when the PS3 gets a price cut, they will be there straight after with one on the 360.

TBH, they would be utterly amazing to drop the 360 down to £220 in the UK, and get rid of the core system. Just fucking bin the thing, nobody wanted it anyway...

Post by **vileliquid1026** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:30 pm

Yeah the price got cut, but I had to take them off of our shelves today for w/e reason... Can't put them back up till Thursday.

I don't think it will make all too much of a difference. I think we've only sold 2 ps3s from the third shipment we got after they were released...

Post by **R00k** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:40 pm

Hell yea, way to go Sony!!

This might finally make me decide to buy a 360!

Post by **bitWISE** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:54 pm

I'd rather see a price drop on the hd dvd drive than the core system.

Post by **d3mol!t!on** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:59 pm

R00k wrote:This might finally make me decide to buy a 360!

Post by **Jackal** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:14 pm

This will probably be enough to get me to buy a PS3 now.

Post by **Fender** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:40 pm

It looks like MS is dropping the core and premium 360 by $50 and the elite by $80 tomorrow.
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?optio ... 9&Itemid=2

But of course...

Microsoft is still keeping its plans under wraps. "Microsoft has not made any announcements regarding a price cut on Xbox 360," a rep told Next-Gen in an e-mail today.

Post by **tnf** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:16 pm

From what I've seen, most games don't look that much, if ANY, better on the PS3, and many games look worse. is the ps3 hardware really as superior to the 360 as was advertised?

Post by **Foo** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:15 pm

tnf wrote:From what I've seen, most games don't look that much, if ANY, better on the PS3, and many games look worse. is the ps3 hardware really as superior to the 360 as was advertised?

Superior? No. Different.

Wonky architecture with split processing and such means you have to build games in a different way, which is dumb in a time when developers are depending on making extra cash with easy ports between platforms. And with the 360/PC unification that's gradually coming along, and Nintendo just flat out fucking off into leftfield and doing their own shit, PS3 is in an odd situation.

You could get a more complex game running on the PS3, potentially, as there's more power pound for pound in each unit than the 360. But since it's spread across a variable high number of individual cores, you have to produce a program which caters to this in an optimal manner. Dunno if anyone's figured out exactly what that would look like yet.

Post by **Deathshroud** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:32 pm

I love Xbox Live and the 360's Dashboard. Unless the PS3 can compete in those categories, I'll probably pass.

Post by **neh** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:38 pm

Foo wrote:
tnf wrote:From what I've seen, most games don't look that much, if ANY, better on the PS3, and many games look worse. is the ps3 hardware really as superior to the 360 as was advertised?
Superior? No. Different.

Wonky architecture with split processing and such means you have to build games in a different way, which is dumb in a time when developers are depending on making extra cash with easy ports between platforms. And with the 360/PC unification that's gradually coming along, and Nintendo just flat out fucking off into leftfield and doing their own shit, PS3 is in an odd situation.

You could get a more complex game running on the PS3, potentially, as there's more power pound for pound in each unit than the 360. But since it's spread across a variable high number of individual cores, you have to produce a program which caters to this in an optimal manner. Dunno if anyone's figured out exactly what that would look like yet.

getting the most out of the 360 requires synchronising at least 3 threads .. so it already differs from the pc in all but the direct x api

Post by **Deathshroud** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:46 pm

It seems like the PS3 could get away with having the best in A.I., physics, and other processor intensive tasks. But its graphical processing power just doesn't seem as prominent.

Post by **stocktroll** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:12 pm

there is only so much you can parallel code for video games which makes the cell's GFLOP peak potential far from ever being used in a game
the 360 simply has the better gaming cpu and gpu

Post by **R00k** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:59 pm

god damn, you just made a wonderful point!

Post by **Fender** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:16 am

R00k wrote:god damn, you just made a wonderful joint!

That's how I read that, for some reason.

Post by **R00k** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:40 am

lol

been going to some NORML meetings lately Fender?

Post by **Grudge** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:10 am

Microsoft follows suit:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/09/micr ... s-as-well/

Post by **o'dium** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:19 am

Blah, the core to fall from... I just keep thinking "Just fucking ditch the thing".

There is a single reason why the core still sells. MS's fuck ups with banning and breaking. Thats why. You buy a core, use all your old stuff, done...

But that would mean the Core system in the UK would be around about, if not cheaper, than the price of a Wii...

And thats seriously gonna ruffle some feathers... Do you want a "out of date game cube" or a "next gen system"? (Not what I think, but thats what "kids" will think).

You can buy a 360 to play GTA 4 on, for less than £200, or a PS3 to play GTA 4 on with the same damn game experience, for £150 more.

Whats worth it...? Keeping in mind if you get the Prem system which looks like it will be about £250 uk, you can also buy the extra exclusive missions the PS3 version wont get...

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:31 am

stocktroll wrote:there is only so much you can parallel code for video games which makes the cell's GFLOP peak potential far from ever being used in a game
the 360 simply has the better gaming cpu and gpu

All that without a single reference to queerness, you make me proud.

Post by **Grudge** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:03 pm

stocktroll wrote:GFLOP

unless this is an euphemism for "penis"

Post by **Jackal** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:43 pm

Helloooo MGS4

Post by **o'dium** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:47 pm

Just wanted to add a little shizzle to the whizzle:

"Konami exec. says Metal Gear Solid may go to other consoles, PS3 little PS3 price cut impact"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070710/tc_ ... _konami_dc

Post by **MKJ** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:51 pm

konami has their press conf tomorrow, word round the campfire is Silent Hill 5 announcement

Post by **o'dium** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:53 pm

MKJ wrote:konami has their press conf tomorrow, word round the campfire is Silent Hill 5 announcement

I hope so, and I hope its multi platform. Silent Hill next gen could look and play stunning.

SH2/3 are still 2 of the best looking games around even today.

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