uh oh

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uh oh

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So I was trying to play UT2k4 and all of a sudden my computer rebooted. I rushed to check the CPU temp in the BIOS and it was at 76C. I'm guessing that's bad, since I remember that my "normal" CPU temp is around 60C (my mobo sensor is probably lying). So I suppose its time to clean the dust, huh? What do you recommend, compressed air cans or should I use my dad's air compressor, it spits water though :paranoid:

specs:
amd athlon 2000+ palomino core
gigabyte ga-7vaxp mobo
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Re: uh oh

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ToxicBug wrote:So I was trying to play UT2k4 and all of a sudden my computer rebooted. I rushed to check the CPU temp in the BIOS and it was at 76C. I'm guessing that's bad, since I remember that my "normal" CPU temp is around 60C (my mobo sensor is probably lying). So I suppose its time to clean the dust, huh? What do you recommend, compressed air cans or should I use my dad's air compressor, it spits water though :paranoid:
if you use his air compressor, make damn sure its dry before you power it up..
[size=75][i]I once had a glass of milk.

It curdled, and then I couldn't drink it. So I mixed it with some water, and it was alright again.

I am now sick.
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I don't think i'll use it anyway, its too powerful.
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ToxicBug wrote:I don't think i'll use it anyway, its too powerful.
Dunno, used some pretty hardcore air compressors on computer equipment.. just gotta make sure you dont ahve any lose caps on your boards.. >_<
[size=75][i]I once had a glass of milk.

It curdled, and then I couldn't drink it. So I mixed it with some water, and it was alright again.

I am now sick.
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Re: uh oh

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ToxicBug wrote:So I was trying to play UT2k4 and all of a sudden my computer rebooted. I rushed to check the CPU temp in the BIOS and it was at 76C. I'm guessing that's bad, since I remember that my "normal" CPU temp is around 60C (my mobo sensor is probably lying). So I suppose its time to clean the dust, huh? What do you recommend, compressed air cans or should I use my dad's air compressor, it spits water though :paranoid:

specs:
amd athlon 2000+ palomino core
gigabyte ga-7vaxp mobo
lots of brands of canned/compressed air spew moisture. be careful of what you buy if you go that route.
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Post by DiscoDave »

I use compressed cans of o2. Only moisture comes out of it if you hold it the wrong way.
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Post by +JuggerNaut+ »

DiscoDave wrote:Only moisture comes out of it if you hold it the wrong way.
yep. to get to most parts it's natural to start holding it incorrectly resulting in the moisture. thus, i recommend a small shop vac and use the reverse switch to blow the dust. got mine for <20 USD.
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Post by SOAPboy »

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
DiscoDave wrote:Only moisture comes out of it if you hold it the wrong way.
yep. to get to most parts it's natural to start holding it incorrectly resulting in the moisture. thus, i recommend a small shop vac and use the reverse switch to blow the dust. got mine for <20 USD.
25$ hobby airbrush FTW!
[size=75][i]I once had a glass of milk.

It curdled, and then I couldn't drink it. So I mixed it with some water, and it was alright again.

I am now sick.
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[img]http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3631/171164665735hk8.png[/img]
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Also, should I use a paint brush to clean it?
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Ok, so I dusted my PC... temperature is now around 66C, weird because when I got my PC 2 years ago it was around 60C.
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And holy shit does a can of duster get cold.
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Post by 4g3nt_Smith »

ToxicBug wrote:And holy shit does a can of duster get cold.
I used to trap the errant ant on my desk with a bottle cap and stick the canned air straw under. Nice little burst, and you get 2 halves of rock-solid ant. :icon26:
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Fuck my temps are high again, 70C for the cpu no load :mad:

Maybe the sensor gone bad or something? Can this temp be even possible? I have a vulcano 9 running at 2.5k rpm.
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Post by obsidian »

Maybe time to reseat the HSF? Add new thermal silver compound?
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Post by YourGrandpa »

Reseating the heat-sink should do the trick. Order some Artic Sliver thermal paste, take off the heat sink, clean the old paste off of both the heat sink and CPU with rubbing alcohol, apply a thin layer of paste and reattach the heat sink.

Check the RPMs of your CPU fan. It's possible that the fan is going bad too.

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I told you the cpu fan rpm is 2.5k. I'll try to reseat it though, but isn't it a dangerous process since I can crack the core?
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Post by obsidian »

The only problem I've ever had with reseating a HSF is accidently pulling the CPU out of the socket (the HSF was pretty much pasted to the core). :p

As long as you're careful you shouldn't have any problems. I recently reseated the HSF of my 6800GT.
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Should I let my computer cool down before reseating the HSF?
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Post by obsidian »

Yes, unless you want to burn off the tips of your fingers. Also unplugging the bugger might help too. :p

Don't yank the HSF off, since it has a tendancy to stick to the core. Gently pop it off and then follow Grandpa's directions. The idea is a thin layer of thermal compound (just enough to make sure that there isn't any air gaps between the cpu and the HSF). Too much and it will act as an insulator rather than a conductor.
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Post by Tormentius »

obsidian wrote:Yes, unless you want to burn off the tips of your fingers. Also unplugging the bugger might help too. :p

Don't yank the HSF off, since it has a tendancy to stick to the core. Gently pop it off and then follow Grandpa's directions. The idea is a thin layer of thermal compound (just enough to make sure that there isn't any air gaps between the cpu and the HSF). Too much and it will act as an insulator rather than a conductor.
:icon14:

Thin meaning somewhat transparent. Here are some instructions for you TB.
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Post by YourGrandpa »

ToxicBug wrote:I told you the cpu fan rpm is 2.5k. I'll try to reseat it though, but isn't it a dangerous process since I can crack the core?
I was just suggesting that you double check the fan speed since I thought you might be telling me the speed of the fan when you bought it.
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Nevermind, this is what my friend discovered when he came to help me reseat the heatsink (and he brought the AS5 compound btw):

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Post by YourGrandpa »

Just looks like the Caps heated up a bit.

If it's still working, re-seat the heat sink and you should be fine.
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Post by SOAPboy »

riddla wrote:
YourGrandpa wrote:Just looks like the Caps heated up a bit.

If it's still working, re-seat the heat sink and you should be fine.
nah, thats the fluid leaking from the caps. they're all but toast.
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[size=75][i]I once had a glass of milk.

It curdled, and then I couldn't drink it. So I mixed it with some water, and it was alright again.

I am now sick.
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How long do you think my mobo has to live?
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