Quake 3 1.16 Master List

[MajorMudd]

Hello,
The Quake 3 1.16 Master List is not working properly. Anyone know how to reach out to someone to fix it?

MUDD

[warribbons]

i second this motion

[menkent]

link for the lazy

[MajorMudd]

Wow, thats a real nice job of pointing out the (Please Read before posting). However there is nothing in it which indicates how to have the Quake 3 1.16 master list issue corrected on wherever it is being run... You see there is a whole world of new players who are looking to play Quake 3 1.16 because it is what is first loaded. They know nothing about 3rd parties who track the games, or even care to. They just want to have fun.. These new players will eventually become skilled players who wish to get more involved which will keep quake going.

Now please spend as much time helping with an answer to my question as you did with your wonderful artwork....


MUDD

[MajorMudd]

Just in case I didn't make my self clear. The Quake 3 Master Server for 1.16 is not available or not updating the available server list when selecting internet option when starting the game. My server is working and sending heartbeats with no issues to the master.quake3arena.com. However dozens of players who play on my server are not able to see the master list that quake3arena.com displays on game startup. So these players are playing only the games they have put in favorites. The master list went from over 900 to less than 70 and now many cant even hit it.

If your playing Q3 1.32 the master list on startup displays over 2000 servers with out issue.

I would like to know who manages the master.quake3arena master list so I can request they fix it....

If this info is in (PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING) I wish you would point it out because I obviously missed it.
Thanks
MUDD

[^misantropia^]

The master is managed by (surprise, surprise!) iD software and I doubt they are inclined to support a ten year old game. But you are free to try, of course.

Anyway, the lack of servers in the in-game browser is documented here.

[MajorMudd]

Yes, I tried with No reply from idsoftware. As you say they probably have no interest in keeping it working. I did read the (please read before posting) before I posted. No information in there except to use third party:

[flash=]When I try to find a server I get "No response from Master Server"
It's recommended that you use a 3rd party server browser such as The All-Seeing Eye or Qtracker Was [/flash]


I was hoping that someone in the forum who has been around for a long time might have some contacts who still care that could assist with this issue....

MUDD

[menkent]

contacts at id software to set up a new master server for a ten year old game... and a badly outdated point release of the game at that?

no.
just use a 3rd party server browser. they're better anyway.

[4days]

this is as good a thread as any to ask - why do folks play old point releases? were the changes really that dramatic?

[MKJ]

no. its the elitists who mad about their favorite exploit being fixed/removed.

[menkent]

for instance, needing a valid cdkey in later point releases.

[MajorMudd]

You have it all wrong. I have a simple server, I have no desire to win every game. As a matter of fact I harldy ever win a game. I am not an elitist. Most of the regular players on my server are not elitist. Just enjoy playing the game. To me, keeping the master list for 1.16 going makes the servers available for new players or returning players who haven't played in years. Beleive it or not there is a whole world out there where players just like to play the game dont know or care about vulnerabilities,point releases, exploits, cheats whatever. What release did all you start with?
It's surprising to see how reluctant some of the players are to go up to 1.32. My 1.32 server works well and is on the 1.32 master list. I cant remember a time when a beginner player came in.

Well anyways guess there's no good advice in here on who to harass at idsoftware. I'm sure its a non issue for Idsoftware but you would think that there is some marketing value in keeping it going. Just trying to do my part to keep the greatest game ever growing!!

MUDD

[DTS]

If you want to talk about marketing value, I suggest you check out Quake Live

[Foo]

You have it all wrong. I have a simple server, I have no desire to win every game. As a matter of fact I harldy ever win a game. I am not an elitist. Most of the regular players on my server are not elitist. Just enjoy playing the game. To me, keeping the master list for 1.16 going makes the servers available for new players or returning players who haven't played in years. Beleive it or not there is a whole world out there where players just like to play the game dont know or care about vulnerabilities,point releases, exploits, cheats whatever. What release did all you start with?

It's surprising to see how reluctant some of the players are to go up to 1.32. My 1.32 server works well and is on the 1.32 master list. I cant remember a time when a beginner player came in.

There's pretty strong contempt within the community for the players that stubbornly stick to lower patch levels, as it fragments the already small pool of players.

Personally I feel similar contempt in general for people that refuse to move with the times. Example: Recently I've been asked for ways of making Windows 7 look like XP. Jesus, suck it up and get used to something new.

"When you're done changing, you're done."

[^misantropia^]

To quote CPMA: "Evolve or die."



Not that there is much evolving happening in the Q3 community anymore. =)

[AnthonyJ]

Besides, the 1.16 master server is still running - it is the same server as for 1.32, just you query it with a different protocol version.

More likely is that 1.16 suffers from more bugs in the master server query/heartbeat code, and so it isn't as reliable for old versions. The only fix for that would be to upgrade to 1.32 anyway.

It's surprising to see how reluctant some of the players are to go up to 1.32.

Yes, that is what surprises us too. There is no good reason to stick with 1.16 IMO (unless you've got Dreamcast players.... ha!), which is why "update" is the only advice you're likely to get here.

As for id contacts, SyncError / TTimo are the two people I'd try if I were you, but I think there is no real answer since as I said, the 1.16 master is the same as the 1.32 master.

[warribbons]

1.16 has fairly decent servers, like PILL and R4Z3R and numberclan.... at least around my area

1.32 only offers me CROM... which lags a little

edit: all seeing eye is down... cant find it anywhere, and gamescanner works well enough. i dunno how thats related, but i need sleep.

[4days]

all seeing eye died a death after yahoo rebranded it with the logo of unfashionable losers - the site redirects to gayspie now.
qtracker's still going strong.

[MajorMudd]

Well someone got the master list running again.... And Again lots of first time players and returning players looking to get into it again....

[eNvY]

Hello Mudd,

Would u let us know how u did it please..

[MajorMudd]

I did nothing to get the master list going. Now, its not functioning again. Figure it's loaded on a server in the back of the room and if someone just happens by it they restart it. Probably once a month when the cleaning person dust's the keybd off.

[v1l3]

There hasn't been a Master List for 1.16n is YEARS. I've had it installed since 2001. I also have 1.30, 1.31, 1.32c(which has a working Internet List) installed. 1.16n has to many errors in it, hence moving onto 1.32c. There's some mod's that I really like in 1.16n, but it's just a mess(to me). ..beside's, you should be running Icculus anyways..well unless you like to stay ol' school..if you actually learned about mods out these days you'd really dislike 1.16n...I played it until 1.30 came out, and then I left my clan and everyone I knew from 2 years of playing. It was just time to move on..it's just to boring, compared to playing stuff like Cpma.
There's alot of Custom maps at ..::LvL that won't even run on 1.16n...<<Pointless!

[MajorMudd]

I guess you havent looked for the 1.16 master list for years,because it has been there and still has alot of new players playing off it when it is operating properly. Next time I see it up and running I will post it for you to check it out.

I monitor my server activity, 4516 TOTAL DIFFERENT PLAYERS have been on my server over the past year, so there is a demand to have a 1.16 server. Most have found the server by the 1.16 master list. When I am on the server I ASK how they find me... Experienced players use third party apps, new players use the master list. What ever your version is or however boring you find 1.16 or whatever....... I enjoy 1.16 and it appears there are alot of others who do as well.

[v1l3]

Next time I see it up and running I will post it for you to check it out.

Good Deal

[MajorMudd]

1.16 master server working fine again. Check it out. Plenty of players coming in and havin a good time.Major Mudd Show