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Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:58 am
by Infernis
Do I dare post this here?
I guess so :paranoid:

Hello,

If you would also like to see an uncompressed version of Rage for the PC which would dramatically improve the texture quality, please sign this petition.

Thank you

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:18 am
by o'dium
An umcompressed version of Rage would be around 1tb in size. Its not going to happen. Ever.

A simple two times resolution bump means 4x the file size. A 60-80 gig download is never going to happen. Ever.

The best you can hope for is that id release the source art assets and a tool that will allow you to re-compress the mega textures at your requested level. Not only will this take a LOT of time and a monster rig to do, but also a shit load of time away from things the devs should be doing, and it wont give them any money at all. Thats never going to happen.

Ever.

Pick one.

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:35 pm
by Grenader
o'dium wrote:An umcompressed version of Rage would be around 1tb in size. Its not going to happen. Ever.

A simple two times resolution bump means 4x the file size. A 60-80 gig download is never going to happen. Ever.

The best you can hope for is that id release the source art assets and a tool that will allow you to re-compress the mega textures at your requested level. Not only will this take a LOT of time and a monster rig to do, but also a shit load of time away from things the devs should be doing, and it wont give them any money at all. Thats never going to happen.

Ever.

Pick one.
stfu and sign :mad:

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:18 pm
by obsidian
John Carmack thought it would be nifty to upload a higher resolution megatexture during his QuakeCon keynote this year. Doesn't mean it will happen, but it does mean that it's possible they might release something. It wouldn't necessarily bump up the resolution of everything, just the lower resolution stuff. But as o'dium said, source textures uncompressed is over 1TB of data.

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:45 pm
by Grenader
obsidian wrote:John Carmack thought it would be nifty to upload a higher resolution megatexture during his QuakeCon keynote this year. Doesn't mean it will happen, but it does mean that it's possible they might release something. It wouldn't necessarily bump up the resolution of everything, just the lower resolution stuff. But as o'dium said, source textures uncompressed is over 1TB of data.
'Uncompressed' really isn't a fair measurement. Any recent title would likely be over 100GB if the textures were all uncompressed (as in RAW, not DDS/PNG/whatever).

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:06 pm
by brisk
The character textures are fine, along with a few world details. It's mainly macro and enviromental/actor models than have the shit textures. They wouldn't all need to be replaced, they just need to be more unified in quality.

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:11 pm
by Big Kahuna Burger
would better gfx change the shit story?

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:21 pm
by fKd
what was so shit about the story anyway? or you just bitter? i read the free comics while it was installing and it filled in a little prologue. might have helped. they just needed more. more world, more settlements more of everything really... maybe they went a bit far streamlining the experience.. i dunno

i cant help think the end got lopped off for rage 2 or future dlc. if they can get it out the door within the next few years not another 7 i think they are onto a solid new ip... apart from that i cant complain.. it must be good, im on my second play through which is rare as hell. was sad when it ended, i wanted more and really enjoyed my time in their universe...

as for better gfx, who really cares?

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:04 am
by Psyche911
Oh come on o'dium, no need to have people download it. They can just release a ~120 dual-layer DVD package.



If you couldn't tell, that was sarcasm.

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:58 am
by mrd
Psyche911 wrote:Oh come on o'dium, no need to have people download it. They can just release a ~120 dual-layer DVD package.



If you couldn't tell, that was sarcasm.
:eek:

It's too bad that 1TB is considered too big of a download... :disgust: It's really not much. Release it to South Koreans, don't they have the fastest intardnet in the world?

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:22 am
by Chupacabra
o'dium wrote:An umcompressed version of Rage would be around 1tb in size. Its not going to happen. Ever.

A simple two times resolution bump means 4x the file size. A 60-80 gig download is never going to happen. Ever.

The best you can hope for is that id release the source art assets and a tool that will allow you to re-compress the mega textures at your requested level. Not only will this take a LOT of time and a monster rig to do, but also a shit load of time away from things the devs should be doing, and it wont give them any money at all. Thats never going to happen.

Ever.

Pick one.
ever :owned:

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:52 pm
by seremtan
mrd wrote:It's too bad that 1TB is considered too big of a download...
yeah but who wants to fill up all or most of their HD with one game?

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:08 pm
by Tsakali
and not to mention, everyone doesn't have a TB worth of space all together.
I don't.

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:00 pm
by scared?
^^^lol poor ppl...

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:24 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Big Kahuna Burger wrote:would better gfx change the shit story?
If I was in marketing I'd say,"Yes."

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:50 am
by mrd
seremtan wrote:
mrd wrote:It's too bad that 1TB is considered too big of a download...
yeah but who wants to fill up all or most of their HD with one game?
Well, if 1TB was not too big to download, one would assume that hopefully standard HDD sizes would be in the 50-100TB range and thus it would not be a problem :D

But yeah... </dreamland>

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:43 am
by EmeraldTiger
Maybe in the future when we have 1-petabyte hard drives (probably not that far away tbh... maybe a decade from now?) it could happen.

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:09 am
by Tsakali
we'd have the same conversation about Rage 4 and its 1 petabyte ubertexture, not to mention Scared? reminding us all how poor we are for having a standard definition holodeck

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:21 am
by Eraser
And LawL, laughing over Whiskey 7's corpse who, by then, died of old age.

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:49 pm
by MKJ
EmeraldTiger wrote:Maybe in the future when we have 1-petabyte hard drives (probably not that far away tbh... maybe a decade from now?) it could happen.
we'd be better served with more efficient programming and optimized compression

Re: Rage - Uncompressed

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:59 pm
by Tsakali
yeah, as if we ever went the extra mile without it being absolutely necessary.