Performance Problems WolfCam-GOOD / Q3A-BAD :(

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AndyW
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Performance Problems WolfCam-GOOD / Q3A-BAD :(

Post by AndyW »

...Quake 3 Arena
Doh.. :cry:
Im working on this Map for 2 weeks or so and had no performace problems (in WolfCam). I just wanted to brush out the shape and trims and start with the detailing. But today i found my good ol´Q3A CD that was lost since the movement to my new home and gave it a try with a fresh Q3A installation...first i was soo Happy that i found the CD -then i loaded the map and was shocked by the bad-performance. :alert: :puke: :puke: Its unplayable on my Pc in Q3A but when i load the same pk3 in wolfcam the performace is good.

[lvlshot]http://i.imgur.com/s7b09DN.jpg[/lvlshot]

Download (not optimized in any way):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1bmrusjfbt9lu ... y.pk3?dl=0

Its just ALPHA and i didnt any detail-brushing or other performance related stuff.
I quick packed the stuff up to an *.pk3 for testing, its a little bit chaos in the pk3´s /texture folder. (Used a mappacker due the custom textures 4 quick packing)
What can i do the get more FPS out of that in Q3?
Im scared again, hehe... :)
Die Vitamine sind in der Dose gefangen!!!
KittenIgnition
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Re: Performance Problems WolfCam-GOOD / Q3A-BAD :(

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Set com_maxfps to 125 in q3 :D :D
Martinus
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Re: Performance Problems WolfCam-GOOD / Q3A-BAD :(

Post by Martinus »

Did you try to enable SMP? (/r_smp 1 in console)
Your map has full VIS?
Do you know how to use detail and strucural brushes (just asking)?
Do you use caulk for non-visible faces?
Rooms are separated well, and influence the VIS with hint?
Did you try playing with _blocksize ? (increasing or decreasing)
Did you use models?

I saw some missing textures, uncorrect brushes at the "wall terrain", and a lava without function.

What is your computers spec?
[url=http://lvlworld.com/author/Martinus]My Quake 3 maps[/url]
m4xpower
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Re: Performance Problems WolfCam-GOOD / Q3A-BAD :(

Post by m4xpower »

KittenIgnition wrote:Set com_maxfps to 125 in q3 :D :D
this!
Also: disable vsync!

Map works fine on my rig. No fps drops anywhere.
Didn't like the map though - way too cramped and full of nooks and crannies for no real reason.
Your first two attempts were much better, imho.
AndyW
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Re: Performance Problems WolfCam-GOOD / Q3A-BAD :(

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It seems its not doable for me to fit scale anyway... its always to big or to small, its so annoying! :puke:
So lets kick No.3 to the thrash too.
Maybe next time... :olo: :olo:
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AndyW
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Re: Performance Problems WolfCam-GOOD / Q3A-BAD :(

Post by AndyW »

Strange, testet again and had no problems... Maybe just the CPU turned too hot last time. :/
@m4xpower: You really think the last 2 maps were better? It would be nice if some people would give the layout a try too. If it really sucks that hard then theres no need for me to finish it and i will start a new one.
Oohohoh.. my Brain hurts :tear:
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m4xpower
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Re: Performance Problems WolfCam-GOOD / Q3A-BAD :(

Post by m4xpower »

Over the past five years i've tested and played approximately 1000 maps. Went through the lvlworld and worldspawn database and played about 6k matches in q3 and ql combined. So i can honestly say: i've seen things :)... the good and the bad.
If you need a 2nd pair of eyes or someone to test a map with, just let me know... even your current map ;)
AndyW
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Re: Performance Problems WolfCam-GOOD / Q3A-BAD :(

Post by AndyW »

Yay Thx, 2 pairs of eyes are better then just 1!
It would help me alot if i know what sucks on this map and if theres sections that are ok.
At the moment mapping feels to me like driving a bike with closed eyes. :/
Die Vitamine sind in der Dose gefangen!!!
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