Video card question

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:12 pm

Are the AGP ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb and AGP Asus 6600GT 128mb about the same performance-wise, or is one of them better?

Post by **Psyche911** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:51 pm

I'm not 100% sure, but I think fairly equal.
What games do you play? For OpenGL (Doom 3, Quake engine games) I'd probably go nVidia, for Direct X, ATi.

Post by **Psyche911** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:52 pm

Actually, here's a direct comparison:
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphi ... index.html

But it seems off. There, the GT totally takes the trophy, but I thought it was more even.

Post by **SoM** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:18 am

the GT pisses all over the 9800

Post by **Psyche911** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:44 am

:icon19: I so thought he said 6600GT. Why on earth would the 6800GT be compared to the 9800Pro?

The 6800GT would beat the 9800Pro in absolutely anything, ever.

But Toxic, please tell me you're not gonna buy one for your XP 2000+. It's overkill, if you're gonna build your new PC in a year, save up for it man. Don't spend the money now.

The G70 and R520 are coming out in 1-2 months. By then they should have dropped in price and have been upgraded (ie. GT

Ultra). So you could get something probably twice as powerful as the 6800GT for the same price as it is now.

Post by **Psyche911** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:45 am

I'd say, get either the 9800 Pro or 6600GT now, whichever is cheaper. They're both good cards. Again, ATi = DirectX, nVidia = OpenGL. But it's not a hugely pronounced difference except in maybe DooM 3.

Post by **Kills On Site** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:31 am

I was dropping my jaw on your first two posts Psyche911, lol

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:32 am

Fuck, I meant 6600GT

Post by **Psyche911** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:42 am

See, KOS, I was right afterall.

KOS: See the thread we were talkin' about Abit motherboards on in a second.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:00 am

Ok, so the cheapest AGP 6600GT I've found was in store for $279 CAD + tax = $320 CAD... ouch. I don't have nearly enough money for that.

I have the opportunity to get a used ATI 9800 pro 128mb for $170 CAD no tax... should I do it?

Post by **Psyche911** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:16 am

For the last time, YES.
They're nearly the same, overall. Buy it now and quit askin'.

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:33 am

Does ram have an effect on your FPS?
I'm not talking about video ram, but just motherboard ram.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:44 am

FragaGeddon wrote:Does ram have an effect on your FPS?
I'm not talking about video ram, but just motherboard ram.

simple answer, yes..

Post by **Psyche911** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:52 am

Yeah, the timings are the most common difference between different RAM at the same speed.

Some RAM (such as OCZ VX) has higher bandwidth somehow, don't ask me what makes it have more.

Also, overclockability is a difference between RAM. Some RAM can't really be overclocked, and some RAM (like BH-5 I have and TCCD chips) can go very high at very low timings.

All of these things have an impact on framerate, among other things.

P.S. Your timings of 2.5-3-3-8 are fairly slow. Ideal would be 2-2-2-5...for most systems. But at stock speeds, I bet you'd be hard pressed to see more than a 10% difference with those timings. So in a game where you only get 60FPS, 66FPS really isn't noticable.

But every little bit helps.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:40 am

Dual channel gave me 3 more fps in quake 3 \o/

Post by **YourGrandpa** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:41 am

If you're planning a complete system upgrade soon, don't waste your money on either card.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:59 am

Fuck this, I don't want a new video card anymore.

Post by **Psyche911** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:25 am

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