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PostPosted: 01-28-2017 08:12 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


And it's reasoning similar to "you shouldn't cry about your dead grandpa if you don't even cry about 20 people getting blown up in a terrorist attack in Baghdad"

Of course people get more upset about what happens to themselves or close to home than something that happens to strangers halfway across the globe.

Also, the bombing of Yemen or other military interventions in the middle east are much more complex things to understand than your neighbour not getting back into the country just because he has an Iranian passport.

Oh and the deportation thing is a fallacy. Obama could do this due to a much tighter cooperation between the US and Mexico. Despite illegal immigrants being deported (and hey, why not?) he brought both countries closer together. Trump is dividing them. Literally.




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PostPosted: 01-28-2017 10:58 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


How realistic would it be for all american airport personnel (at least those who would be responsible for physically blocking Muslims entry) to put down their work (strike) as long as this Muslim ban is effective? It kind of surprises me that people en masse are willing to comply with these outrageous executive orders.

I saw lots of people protesting on his day of inauguration. Why dont all these people lut their money where their mouth is?




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PostPosted: 01-28-2017 11:08 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It's winter right now. People are more concerned with staying warm... I wouldn't be surprised to see things ramp up as the warmer months approach.




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How realistic would it be for all american airport personnel (at least those who would be responsible for physically blocking Muslims entry) to put down their work (strike) as long as this Muslim ban is effective? It kind of surprises me that people en masse are willing to comply with these outrageous executive orders.

Last time they did that, Reagan fired them all.



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could be. not many knuckle-dragging chavs are sat patiently waiting for a particular pen-stroke to commit arson.
the last church that got burned down was an anti-trump chump tryna make things look as bad as he thought they do :|

American history is rife with reactionary instigators setting fire to churches. Considering the population of the States, someone somewhere was bound to be set off by the President effectively banning Muslims from entering the country.

I remember the story about that church torched by a supposedly anti-Drumpf guy. Turns out, the arsonist was actually a member of the church and, amusingly, his name is McClinton. The authorities didn't find a political motivation for the arson, however, and suspect that the graffiti might have been done by someone else after the fire had been set, or possibly done by McClinton in an effort to obfuscate. Either way, he hasn't made a public statement as to his true motives for the arson, so nobody knows for sure at this point.



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http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Two-Syrian-Families-Detained-at-Philadelphia-International-Airport-Told-to-Fly-Back-Family-Member-Says-412047173.html

I find this scary. Just imagine that there's an actual person, a human, who physically blocked entry for two families and put them on a flight back to a war torn country, knowing that a few hours ago, their paperwork was in order and they would be admitted into the country. This person then drowns their own sense of ethics in the bile that's called "duty". Hiding behind "orders" and "rules". How does this person feel about himself? Does he still sleep at night? Maybe this person is afraid of getting fired, but this sheepish behavior is how dictators rise to power.




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PostPosted: 01-28-2017 02:23 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Trump's secret plan to defeat ISIS has been revealed. He just sign an executive order for the defense department to come up with a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days... Brilliant...




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PostPosted: 01-28-2017 02:24 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Not to defeat them in 30 days... To come up with a plan to do so... :olo: ...




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PostPosted: 01-28-2017 02:28 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Step 1: photoshop WMD's into grainy sattelite photos




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PostPosted: 01-28-2017 02:46 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


time to bomb some more sand :|




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PostPosted: 01-28-2017 10:45 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Was going to post the same.
Why don't they just protest? They are.

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PostPosted: 01-28-2017 11:06 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


This is going to continue into tomorrow, too. So far there have been 2 protests and Drumpf has been president for 8 days.



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PostPosted: 01-29-2017 12:59 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


What can Trump do through executive orders? When does the Senate have to vote about anything?




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PostPosted: 01-29-2017 01:03 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


This is a 1941 Dr. Seuss cartoon
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PostPosted: 01-29-2017 01:04 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I was wondering that. I guess with a republican senate there'll be very little to stop him doing most of the stuff he wants




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PostPosted: 01-29-2017 01:08 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


True, but it's a slim majority and there may just be a bunch of Republican senators that aren't too fond of these ideas of Trump.




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PostPosted: 01-29-2017 02:04 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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Doombrain wrote:
I was wondering that. I guess with a republican senate there'll be very little to stop him doing most of the stuff he wants

It'll be the courts that stop him from (some of) the egregious stuff.




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PostPosted: 01-29-2017 11:17 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


And he gets to pick Supreme Court justices for the next 4 years. There's one seat open already and potentially 3 more that could open up before 2020.



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http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/01/sean ... ation.html

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Last night, Sean Spicer retweeted a video from satirical news publication the Onion. “You nailed it,” Spicer tweeted, along with the video which listed “Five Things to Know About Sean Spicer.” Except it seems like maybe Spicer — who remember, as White House press secretary, is partially in the business of watching videos and reading tweets — didn’t watch the video or read the Onion’s tweet as carefully as he could have … since they declare Spicer’s “role in the Drumpf administration will be to provide the American public with robust and clearly articulated misinformation.”


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PostPosted: 01-29-2017 01:07 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Trump won't last 2 months at this rate...




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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
Doombrain wrote:
I was wondering that. I guess with a republican senate there'll be very little to stop him doing most of the stuff he wants

It'll be the courts that stop him from (some of) the egregious stuff.


Is there that many insane republicans willing to follow Trump into the $2 brothel ?



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PostPosted: 01-29-2017 02:28 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


yes




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yeah after all the "anyone but Trump" rhetoric during the primaries, they're now lining up for a taste of Cheeto Benito's cocktail weiner :|




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Dennis Skinner laying it on thick -





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Case in point.




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losCHUNK wrote:
"destroyed"


people on youtube need to stop using this word




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seremtan wrote:
losCHUNK wrote:
"destroyed"


people on youtube need to stop using this word


:olo: destroyed :olo:




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Drumpf fires acting attorney general for refusing to defend immigration order in court
http://www.vox.com/2017/1/30/14446744/m ... ally-yates



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Trump's Right-Hand Man Steve Bannon Called for Christian Holy War: Now He's on the National Security Council
"We're at the very beginning stages of a very brutal and bloody conflict," President Trump's chief strategist told a Christian conference in 2014.
By Ben Norton / AlterNet
January 29, 2017


Steve Bannon, President Donald Trump's right-hand man, made what was essentially a call for a Christian holy war in a speech in a international conference only a few years ago.

Bannon, chief strategist and senior counselor to Trump, is notorious for his extreme right-wing views. He previously served as the CEO for the far-right president's campaign, and now sits on the National Security Council.

In remarks to a 2014 conference at the Vatican, Bannon warned his Christian audience, "We're at the very beginning stages of a very brutal and bloody conflict."

"We are in an outright war against jihadists, Islam, Islamic fascism," Bannon continued. He likewise condemned "the immense secularization of the West" and the increasing secularism among millennials.

Bannon stressed that "the people in this room, and the people in the Church" must "bind together and really form what I feel is an aspect of the Church militant, to really be able to not just stand with our beliefs but to fight for our beliefs against this new barbarity that's starting that will literally eradicate everything that we've been bequeathed over the last 2,000 and 2,500 years."

In his speech, Bannon articulated a view of the world as a constant conflict between the capitalist "Judeo-Christian West," which is a benevolent force of "enlightenment," and the malevolent forces of socialism, atheism, and Islam.

Trump's chief strategist, who will now play a crucial role in crafting U.S. foreign policy and sit in on meetings of the National Security Council Principals Committee, has been described even by hard-line conservatives as an extremist.

Ultra-right-wing pundit Glenn Beck compared Bannon to the Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels, a close ally of Adolf Hitler, and said the Trump campaign was “grooming Brownshirts,” in reference to Nazi paramilitaries. According to Beck, Bannon is “quite possibly the most dangerous guy in all of American politics.”

Republican strategist John Weaver, who worked on Republican John Kasich's 2016 presidential campaign, likewise warned that, with Bannon as Trump's chief strategist, "The racist, fascist extreme right is represented footsteps from the Oval Office." (The Ku Klux Klan and American Nazi Party praised Trump for appointing Bannon to his top positions.)

Bannon made these holy war remarks in a speech—which has previously been reported on by BuzzFeed—at the 2014 International Conference on Human Dignity, the third annual meeting organized by the Rome-based Christian organization Dignitatis Humanae Institute.

The Dignitatis Humanae Institute is a religious group that advocates for "the active participation of the Christian faith in the public square." It promotes what it calls "authentic human dignity" by, in its words, "supporting Christians in public life, assisting them in presenting effective and coherent responses to increasing efforts to silence the Christian voice in the public square."

A glowing endorsement from Bannon is conspicuously featured at the top of the Dignitatis Humanae Institute's website, in which President Trump's right-hand man calls the group's founder Benjamin Harnwell "the smartest guy in Rome" and "a very tough guy."

The religious organization uploaded footage of Bannon's speech at its 2014 conference to YouTube. The video had only a few thousand views at the time of the publication of this article.

When he made his remarks, Bannon served as chairman of the far-right media company Breitbart, which is infamous for publishing racist and sexist material. Bannon has identified Breitbart as "the platform for the alt-right," a popular euphemism for the growing white supremacist, neo-fascist movement in the U.S. and Europe.

In a guide Breitbart published on the alt-right, it noted that the movement was founded by neo-fascist leader Richard Spencer, who declared "Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail victory!" at a white supremacist conference in November, referencing the Nazi slogan "Sieg heil."

Bannon kicked off his 2014 speech warning that "the world, and particularly the Judeo-Christian West, is in a crisis."

"It is really the organizing principle of how we built Breitbart News to really be a platform to bring news and information to people throughout the world—principally in the West, but we're expanding internationally—to let people understand the depths of this crisis," he explained.

Bannon noted that, exactly 100 years before his speech, Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated in Sarajevo, in a shot heard round the world that prefaced World War I. This war heralded in the bloodiest century of human history.

The 20th century, Bannon argued, constituted a kind of second Dark Age. He described its conflict as "the Judeo-Christian West versus atheism."

"But the thing that got us out of that... was just not the heroism of our people," Bannon continued. "The underlying principle was an enlightened form of capitalism," he explained. "That capitalism really generated tremendous wealth."

Bannon stressed that the absolute basis of this civilization is capitalism. "I'm a very practical, pragmatic capitalist. I was trained at Goldman Sachs; I went to Harvard Business School. I'm as hard-nosed a capitalist as you can get," he explained.

Yet Bannon criticized the libertarianism of figures like Ayn Rand, however, for "taking away from the underlying spiritual, moral foundations of Christianity and really Judeo-Christian belief." He added, "That form of capitalism is quite different, when you really look at it, to what I call the enlightened capitalism of the Judeo-Christian West."

In the early years of the 21st century, nevertheless, Bannon argued, "I believe that we've come horribly off track." He went on, claiming the time marked "the very beginning stages of a very brutal and bloody conflict."

Bannon spoke of the increasing secularism among young people in the West as a dangerous problem. "The overwhelming drive of popular culture is to absolutely secularize this rising generation," he lamented.

The Breitbart head also alarmed his Christian audience about the wave of extremist Islamism. "We're now I believe at the beginning stages of a global war against Islamic fascism," he said. "And this war is I think metastasizing far quicker than governments can handle it."

Bannon discussed the heinous atrocities committed by the violent extremist group ISIS, which has received support from close Western allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

"We are at the very beginning stages of a global conflict," he continued. "If we do not bind together as partners, with others in other countries," Bannon added, then "this conflict is only going to metastasize."




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Just a link will suffice, tyvm. Has the added bonus of showing the source and keeping any in-line hyperlinks intact.




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