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Finno-Persian Legend
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PostPosted: 07-21-2020 07:50 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


TLMUFDVR wrote:
No alt, just recognizing the train wreck Biden being ignored. The YourGrandpa video noted an inconvenient truth with the mentioning of Pelosi and Schumer. But nothing to see here, all focus on orange man bad. One can only speculate how many will proclaim to leave the country again but not actually leave if the election doesn't go their way.

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Exactly. Trump is a symptom, not cause. Anyone that doesn't realize that most likely regards Obama as a saint and thinks dubyah wasn't all that bad either.

Until the world's neo-libs get ousted as the war-loving corporate shills they are, there will be many more Trumptards and continued right-wing empowerment in the future.




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PostPosted: 07-21-2020 09:13 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


YourGrandpa wrote:
If I'm wrong. What am I wrong about? None of you have came up with anything to dispute the Jimmy Dore video, because you can't. Are you saying that there aren't rioters burning down buildings and vandalizing the federal court house in Portland for 6 weeks?

Well?

Nobody bothered to dispute the video. You know why? Because it's a nonsensical video that just about nothing. Nobody is willing to give the video any merit by acting like it holds water. It's like discussing the shape of the planet with a flat earther. It's a waste of time.

Also, if you're paying attention, you'll find that the two posts above this one exactly disprove the Dore video.




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PostPosted: 07-21-2020 09:25 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Captain Mazda wrote:
TLMUFDVR wrote:
No alt, just recognizing the train wreck Biden being ignored. The YourGrandpa video noted an inconvenient truth with the mentioning of Pelosi and Schumer. But nothing to see here, all focus on orange man bad. One can only speculate how many will proclaim to leave the country again but not actually leave if the election doesn't go their way.

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Exactly. Trump is a symptom, not cause. Anyone that doesn't realize that most likely regards Obama as a saint and thinks dubyah wasn't all that bad either.

Until the world's neo-libs get ousted as the war-loving corporate shills they are, there will be many more Trumptards and continued right-wing empowerment in the future.


The shitty thing about current day (American) politics is that the choice is between somewhat shit and utter shit. Then we have progressive, critically thinking people capable of self-reflection (dare I say, mostly of Democrat orientation) who will say "yeah, Biden isn't ideal but Trump should never happen again".
Then there's loads of (Republican) people who are incapable of being critical about themselves and their representatives. They won't call out Trump on his lies and other bullshit. Any (healthy) criticism Democrats have on themselves will be taken by republicans and used as a way to reinforce their opinion of Trump.

If you'd ask me, I'd love to see someone like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as president, but that probably won't ever happen because she's way too progressive for most American citizens.




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PostPosted: 07-21-2020 09:53 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The country has been moving left for a while now; by the time she's ready to run, maybe the country will be ready for her.




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PostPosted: 07-22-2020 12:15 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Captain Mazda wrote:
Trump is a symptom...


... of a country that needs to fix its way of electing presidents

it's ironic that the electoral college - the system designed to forestall the election of populist demagogues - has produced a populist demagogue

if the 2016 election were re-fought with direct election (and everyone voted exactly the same), every populist-white-supremacy-woo-woo narrative being touted in/about the US now would struggle to maintain themselves or might not even exist




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seremtan wrote:
Captain Mazda wrote:
Trump is a symptom...


... of a country that needs to fix it's way of electing presidents


As long as candidates continue to be vetted by banks, pharma giants, insurance companies, military contractors, oil, and the Israel/Saudi lobby, nothing will change.




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PostPosted: 07-22-2020 06:58 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


well yeah we'd have gotten Wall St missilehead Hillary instead of orange fathead Trump. I'm not suggesting that would have been ideal (though in many ways it would have been an improvement), just making the point that an entire narrative edifice has been constructed off the back of Trump's "victory" that wouldn't exist if the 2016 election had been decided by direct voting

for one thing instead of listening to people blathering on about fascism, we'd could have listened to them blathering on about big oil, big pharma, big defense, big dicks etc




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PostPosted: 07-22-2020 03:03 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
Nobody bothered to dispute the video. You know why? Because it's a nonsensical video that just about nothing. Nobody is willing to give the video any merit by acting like it holds water. It's like discussing the shape of the planet with a flat earther. It's a waste of time.

Also, if you're paying attention, you'll find that the two posts above this one exactly disprove the Dore video.


LOL. What a cop out. So easy to disprove you can't disprove it.




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PostPosted: 07-22-2020 03:09 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Who is Gramps voting for?




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PostPosted: 07-22-2020 03:25 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


probably Kanye




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PostPosted: 07-22-2020 09:06 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


seremtan wrote:
well yeah we'd have gotten Wall St missilehead Hillary instead of orange fathead Trump. I'm not suggesting that would have been ideal (though in many ways it would have been an improvement), just making the point that an entire narrative edifice has been constructed off the back of Trump's "victory" that wouldn't exist if the 2016 election had been decided by direct voting

for one thing instead of listening to people blathering on about fascism, we'd could have listened to them blathering on about big oil, big pharma, big defense, big dicks etc



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YourGrandpa wrote:
LOL. What a cop out. So easy to disprove you can't disprove it.


Eraser wrote:
Also, if you're paying attention, you'll find that the two posts above this one exactly disprove the Dore video.




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PostPosted: 07-23-2020 05:28 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


This is still pretty good

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PostPosted: 07-23-2020 06:08 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
I can't disprove it.


:yawn:




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PostPosted: 07-23-2020 06:12 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Gwamps gives up. :olo:




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PostPosted: 07-23-2020 09:47 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


He's so thick, isn't he? Even when I literally point out evidence,.he still doesn't get it.




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PostPosted: 07-23-2020 11:03 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Maybe he should take that cognitive test.

Person, woman, man, camera, TV.




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PostPosted: 07-23-2020 11:39 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


dunning-kruger :dts:




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Eraser wrote:
He's so thick, isn't he? Even when I literally point out evidence,.he still doesn't get it.


Which one of Jimmy Dore's points did your "evidence" dispute?




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PostPosted: 07-24-2020 01:32 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Transient wrote:
Gwamps gives up. :olo:


Give up what, ruing your fantasy that Sleepy Joe Pedo is some how better than Orange Man Bad?




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PostPosted: 07-24-2020 01:38 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Oh hey wow, there it is!

Thinking Joe Biden isn't an improvement over Trump just shows what a delusional moron you truly are.




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PostPosted: 07-24-2020 02:01 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Gramps is voting for Trump...




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YourGrandpa wrote:
Give up what, ruing your fantasy that Sleepy Joe Pedo is some how better than Orange Man Bad?

At least "Sleepy Joe Pedo" doesn't wish Ghislaine Maxwell well twice during the same interview, whilst bragging about how often he hung out with her.... :olo:

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Eraser wrote:
Oh hey wow, there it is!

Thinking Joe Biden isn't an improvement over Trump just shows what a delusional moron you truly are.


So you've got nothing. Just what I thought.




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Transient wrote:
At least "Sleepy Joe Pedo" doesn't wish Ghislaine Maxwell well twice during the same interview, whilst bragging about how often he hung out with her.... :olo:

Person, woman, man, camera, TV.


Yeah, Biden was only complicit in increasing/extending our military involvement in the middle east and is currently with the party who is against withdrawing troops. Sure killing thousands of people for no good reason is way better.

Turn off the fucking TV.




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YourGrandpa wrote:
Yeah, Biden was only complicit in increasing/extending our military involvement in the middle east and is currently with the party who is against withdrawing troops. Sure killing thousands of people for no good reason is way better.

Turn off the fucking TV.

You're the idiot calling Biden a pedo when the alternative is a fucking pedo, you hypocrite. Both parties and their presidents have been complicit in war crimes. Obama, Bush (both), Clinton (both), Reagan, Nixon, and yes, Drumpf too. If it was up to me they'd all share a cell for the rest of their lives. You tell me to turn off the TV, while parroting talking points conjured up by conspiracy nuts on the internet. It's like you're deliberately trying to self-own. :dork:




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You're the idiot calling Biden a pedo when the alternative is a fucking pedo, you hypocrite. Both parties and their presidents have been complicit in war crimes. Obama, Bush (both), Clinton (both), Reagan, Nixon, and yes, Drumpf too. If it was up to me they'd all share a cell for the rest of their lives. You tell me to turn off the TV, while parroting talking points conjured up by conspiracy nuts on the internet. It's like you're deliberately trying to self-own. :dork:


What's the conspiracy genius? You're agreeing with me and then telling me I'm wrong. How am I a hypocrite?

Turn off your fucking TV.




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PostPosted: 07-24-2020 08:28 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Biden doesn't diddle kids. :dork:




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PostPosted: 07-24-2020 10:07 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I don't get the whole war-mongering argument about Dems from republicans.
George Bush Sr attacked Iraq.
George W Bush Jr attacked Afghanistan and Iraq
Trump executed more drone strikes in 4 years than Obama did in 8.
Obama didn't just pull out troops because the region isn't stable enough.

It seems like it's a republican thing to blame others of what they themselves are doing.

Just look at the Dore video :olo:




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PostPosted: 07-24-2020 11:26 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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Look! More criticism on democratic representatives.
It's almost as if Jimbob DumbleDore is talking out of his ass :eek:




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PostPosted: 07-25-2020 12:03 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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Transient wrote:
Biden doesn't diddle kids. :dork:


Really?




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